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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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Jean Steinberg with Jean no longer

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suffering from a sore throat and Chris

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with a fixed tooth and one don't want to

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get into that because anyone who has

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dental work you know it's like the dark

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ages going into those places oh boy I

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think we need a tea to come down and

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help us with our dental problems on this

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planet because how many people let's

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talk about this for a second what

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percentage of the world population how

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many people have really good teeth

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without constant cleaning without

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getting cavities

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how come teeth are so imperfect well

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it's one of the main reasons why Native

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Americans died back prior to you know

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the white man's coming into the new

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world a lot of Indians for instance

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would grind corn with metate switch were

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you know kind of concave shaped stones

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and then they would grind corn with

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another stone against stone and the

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small bits of rock would get in the

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grain and they break their teeth and

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once she lost your teeth that was it you

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know you couldn't have somebody chew

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your food for you so that was one of the

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main reasons why people died so young

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and nowadays we're just having perfect

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teeth

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no now our read an article the other day

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saying that you shouldn't pay large

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amounts of money to clean the teeth of

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your family dog you know they have dog

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dentists yeah

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that's give them a milk-bone give them a

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milk-bone right now our dog has

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perfectly fine teeth and he gets bones

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you know he gets rawhide bones and milk

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bones or some equivalent and he seems to

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do fine although my wife does use doggy

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toothpaste on him oh gosh you

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kidding you ask any dedicated dog owner

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about caring for a pet well you've seen

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him he deserves to be taken care of

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right yeah just give him a big old go go

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to the butcher and grab some big old

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beef bones and just let him chew on

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those for a couple of days and that

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cleans his teeth nice

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what kind of sort of what he gets here

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but she gives him the aunt of the

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tension you know well that's not quite a

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complaint he's fairly well behaved for

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dogs he's such a sweetie he really is

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you see you've met him he hung out with

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you you know doing a show and he was

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right there hanging out and listening no

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he seems pretty smart really intelligent

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good little watchdog yep yep that's why

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you're here embarking occasionally on

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the show well he has a loud piercing

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bark I call it a tenor bark no because

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he gets I think often he's

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editorializing as well he's doing

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something that he's not either he's not

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too sure about and needs to put his own

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two cents in or he's just totally

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disagreeing with what you're saying well

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it's half and half with him I guess I'm

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doing okay you know seriously folks we

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have the power cast get lots of letters

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from listeners we got one from someone

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the other day who another person who was

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upset over the fact that we allegedly

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criticized art Bell upon his short-term

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return to radio and I don't think I

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still don't think we criticized him more

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than in a very general way which is

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number one in show business comebacks

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are very difficult you can't always rest

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on your laurels and evidently he had

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some business issues with Sirius XM that

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we're not resolved and that's why his

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show was on just for a few weeks I think

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our biggest comment about art Bell has

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been that he allowed people with less

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than stellar credentials or facts to get

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on the show and wasn't critical of them

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so some of the people that you are I've

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heard about like a Richard Hoagland

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and Steven Greer and other people they

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were very famous on the original art

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Bell coast-to-coast radio show and they

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get on there and they make all sorts of

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claims particularly Hoagland and he

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really wouldn't refute them and maybe it

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was fun to listen to people come on

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there with wacky stories I heard his

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story once someone gets on the air and

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they claim to be Jim Morrison of the

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doors now most of us know that Jim

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Morrison died at the age of 27 which is

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very significant in the rock and roll

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universe you know Janis Joplin died at

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27 other artists did as well he died at

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the age of 27 in France I believe is

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that correct Chris yep yeah okay so of

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course there are rumors every so often

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that Jim Morrison is actually alive and

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he faked his death someone gets on the

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air with art bell and says I'm Jim

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Morrison how you dispute him you know

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I'm sure anybody who read the personal

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history of him of Morrison could

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probably get on there and pretend to be

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now that disappeared after a while like

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I disappeared but that's the kind of

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stuff he had well it was fun to listen

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to it's like an attainment tonight

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because the coast I mean anyone serious

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about these subjects is not going to get

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their information from coast to coast

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occasionally they'll have a guest that's

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fascinating definitely worth listening

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to has some some new have been

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information or possibly a new brand of

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insight the programs at George Knapp

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hosts I think by and large are all worth

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listening to in fact my own personal

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appearances on coast to coast are always

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with George Knapp I I prefer his style

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of investigative reporting and in radio

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hosting than the other host that they

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have well George Knapp is a

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straight-ahead broadcast journalist with

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real credentials he's one real awards

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and he has a smart interviewing

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technique and he stands way far and

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above that other host

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on coast-to-coast I think if anything

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they should be offering a job for him to

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be the full-time host I think it'd be a

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much better show no but he has a real

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job yes he does as a broadcast reporter

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I bet though being on a network radio

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show five days a week he'd get more

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money probably wouldn't you know

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yeah but he's he's been it wasn't kiss

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lb I think the NBC affiliate there in

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Las Vegas he's been on that on there I

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think almost 30 years now you know

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that's also amazing by the way

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that somebody can be on a TV show for so

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many years actually it's klas TV in Las

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Vegas and he's from New Jersey George

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Knapp I looked him up okay what can I

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take I know everything but I'm saying

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yeah that that kind of show lends itself

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to being entertaining people maybe they

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work later they get up early or the

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driving home they're in a truck and they

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hear some fascinating discussion and

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what we object to is when they present

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fakers as presenting or offering factual

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information they'll hit back with at

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least a few pointed questions no yeah

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the dogs are acting up again yeah grab

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list and they're going the totally

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agreeing with you well you see only dogs

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agree with me by the way so anyway we

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have certainly respect for art bells

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success I wish him well our criticism

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once again is that he has allowed fakers

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and frauds to get on his show without

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giving them the proper criticism and

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that's the way all right

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today we've got a guest returning for

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the second time one of our more popular

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shows back in 2012 featured Thomas Fusco

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and he's author of a book called behind

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the cosmic veil a new vision of reality

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which is one of those I guess

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one size fits all concepts yeah it's a

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big picture you know lots of things

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under one umbrella it's kind of hard to

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describe that's why we're gonna have him

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on the show to kind of get reacquainted

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with his grand scheme all the

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one-size-fits-all theory

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well it's certainly fun to talk about it

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to see what led him to that conclusion

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and maybe some of the things that he's

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learned along the way since the last

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time he was on the show he's Thomas

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Fusco the book again behind the cosmic

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veil a new vision of reality we can all

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has changed dramatically I'm a cyclist

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days off after being on 1 world

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way I wrote 10 days in a row and over

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100 degree heat and then I take another

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two servings of one world away and then

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workout at the gym for another hour and

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a half I just couldn't believe these

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results my normal muscle tightness and

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soreness after working out are virtually

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gone don't take my word for it one will

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way comes in single servings just give

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it a try for a health and taste

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sensation you'll love call eight eight

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one world wh ey calm we'd like to hear

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at the para cast calm and don't forget

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as I said in our first segment on the

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para cast back in 2012 when Thomas Fusco

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joined us for a session it was one of

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our most well received shows he's author

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of a book called behind the cosmic veil

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a new vision of reality now as people

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know on the para cast sometimes we get

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involved in a person's background in

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credentials before we get into what they

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do and we've had a few reasons why

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that's so and one of them is because one

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of our very frequent guest on the show

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fellow named Phil and Bragg know told us

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about all the degrees he had from MIT

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and we figured after some investigation

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at the only MIT credentials he had other

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than the t-shirt that he bought from

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somebody shop with the ones that he

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printed eyes inkjet printer or maybe his

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Xerox sodding printer which really makes

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good degrees by the way if you want if

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they could degree not that I've ever

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done that even had an MIT class ring

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made yeah he did but you can get those

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made without actually physically proving

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that you went to MIT yeah mmm

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so Thomas Fusco one thing I notice here

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is that you avoid that because you don't

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tell us what your educational background

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is is there a reason for that

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oh yeah there's a number of reasons and

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you know this is a topic that's worthy

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of discussion that's for sure when we're

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talking about alternative theories you

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know it's tough to find a qualification

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for that you know there's in physics

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alone there's numerous different

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divisions different types of fields

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where for example someone who is into

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material physics that's what they went

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to school for knows almost nothing about

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particle physics and vice-versa

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you know and you get in to the kind of

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situations where like you were talking

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about where people want to bring forward

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their qualification and say gee because

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I have these kinds of degrees you oughta

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listen to me and you know we have

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doctorates let's say you know this in

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the UFO community it's just because

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they're a doctor doesn't mean anybody

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necessarily is going to believe in UFOs

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just because of that

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so for my end what I normally find is

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that people who want to focus on the

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messenger really have trouble with the

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message but are not qualified or for

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whatever reason they don't want to

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debate those those particular issues

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they want to go after the messenger and

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it really wouldn't matter if I had a

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physics degree from God the person who

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wants to throw stones would just simply

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move to a different target and that's

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pretty much all it is but I do tell

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people is this is that I have at least

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the academic credentials of Nikola Tesla

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and people can go look it up that up and

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if they don't like that they ought to go

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home and disconnect themselves from the

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power grid that Nikola Tesla and then

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because he just simply doesn't have the

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qualifications to power their house so I

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want the the conversation to be focused

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on my work and not on me well I should

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point out here that if we were going to

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expect certain credentials to run a

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multinational corporation where would

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Steve Jobs have fit in he never actually

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enrolled in college I think he audited

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some classes that was it Polk's

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and his success is amazing so maybe

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that's an argument against going for

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advanced degrees I don't know well the

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other problem that you have is let's

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face it one of these subjects which is a

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primary theme of this genre is the

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paranormal phenomena mainstream

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businesses don't want to go there they

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wouldn't want to give their credentials

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or even their identity because it could

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be damaging to their career and plus the

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fact those people are so indoctrinated

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in the mainstream way of thinking that

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some of the things that they've learned

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that were quote-unquote gospel truths

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are the very things that block their

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thinking from looking into areas where

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there might actually be solutions but

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are far from the mainstream as far as

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you know the kind of areas that they're

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they have to go into I wonder also this

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extreme specialization you see in

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science and even in medicine does that

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cause tunnel vision you know you're so

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invested in this area of your expertise

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that anything that extends into another

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field you may not see it well absolutely

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as I said there are so many different

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divisions in physics I mean there's

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biophysics there's geophysics I just

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read an article a number months ago in

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Scientific American where materials

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businesses went to a convention where

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they had theoretical physicists talking

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about strength theory and he was

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completely lost and when he was talking

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to those attendees about his work the

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theoretical physicists were completely

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lost they didn't

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we know basically almost death one of

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what each other was involved in and has

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specialized knowledge necessary for it

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how the average person feels when

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they're when they're trying to get up to

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speed in science in general we know so

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much right now and we've we've uncovered

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so much scientific information that I

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think the average person has has been

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left far behind in the dust that's why

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we see a rise I think in magical

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thinking people are so just separated

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from this is you know state of the art

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in terms of scientific knowledge that

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that they just revert back to more

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primal archetypal magical thinking

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absolutely so and people need to keep in

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mind we're also in an era where because

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of the mass media and the Internet and

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the various types of how would I say it

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sensationalism is very popular so we

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actually do have some mainstream

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businesses who are actually presenting

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these kinds of magical fantasies to the

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public when in fact if they know in

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themselves that these things are very

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speculative and have no foundation at

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all in solid physics and yet they're you

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know they're getting a lot of traction

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and making money in popularity there's

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one who is on the TV quite often and I

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won't mention his name everybody knows

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who it is I kind of think you already

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did ah you know he constantly talks

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about the multiverse and dinosaurs that

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could be on the next frequency right

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next to us like tuning a radio and the

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cat knows that it 98% of what he's

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talking about is not as nonsense but it

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gets a lot of press and he's getting a

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lot of mileage off of it and he's you

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know he's making money

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well he's turned himself into a

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personality no no disrespect but he's

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turned himself into a personality he

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gets on the shows and remember to when

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you bring a scientist on a TV show or a

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radio show unless they're long-form

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like the power cast isn't there only a

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few shows like us around the world if

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it's not long-form show they've got five

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minutes to make their points so they

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have to use short sentences simple

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generic explanations and a little

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sensationalism so of course people will

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remember you when the show is over we

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have someone who's gonna have some

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memorable stuff to talk about as we

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progress here Thomas Fusco joining Jean

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device is smaller than a coffee cup

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fakes out burglars into thinking someone

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is home at your house while you were

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away plugs into any wall outlet is

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recommended by many police departments

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and sells for less than thirty five

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dollars

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yes it's fake TV this year about one in

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every 50 US homes will have a break in

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with burglars usually picking the easy

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target a dark house that looks like no

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one is home fake TV is a small

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electronic security device that makes it

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look like someone is home watching TV by

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simulating the light from a real TV it's

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like a lamp on a timer but far more

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convincing and for only thirty four

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ninety-five fake TV could be the

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difference between coming home to a

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secure house or one that's been

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ransacked go to fake tv.com

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or call one eight seven seven five fake

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555
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556
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companies and politicians have dangerous

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alliances that manipulate the way we

558
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live by prescribing drugs that only

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manage disease keeping us dependent on

560
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Big Pharma and with Obama care at our

561
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doorstep we are now forced into a system

562
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that many of us do not want any part of

563
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and no man or government has the right

564
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to dictate how we as free people choose

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silver calm hi this is Don Ecker and you

583
00:27:07,999 --> 00:27:06,059
are tuned in to the para cast let me

584
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:08,009
tell you what you're gonna hear stuff

585
00:27:14,859 --> 00:27:10,710
here that you probably won't hear

586
00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:14,869
anywhere else hear that George Noory

587
00:27:21,049 --> 00:27:17,820
Thomas Fusco joining us on the para cast

588
00:27:23,899 --> 00:27:21,059
and we're going to get down and dirty

589
00:27:27,289 --> 00:27:23,909
into his book behind the cosmic veil a

590
00:27:30,099 --> 00:27:27,299
new vision of reality so Thomas I think

591
00:27:32,419 --> 00:27:30,109
we're painting the fundamentals here

592
00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:32,429
scientists have tunnel vision or maybe

593
00:27:39,649 --> 00:27:37,710
they want to get on TV so therefore they

594
00:27:42,739 --> 00:27:39,659
will tailor their viewpoints or their

595
00:27:45,139 --> 00:27:42,749
presentation to appeal to the masses not

596
00:27:48,409 --> 00:27:45,149
to serve science you with me so far

597
00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:48,419
right oh absolutely and everybody in

598
00:27:53,779 --> 00:27:50,820
that can community knows what's going on

599
00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:53,789
and it's kind of like a thing where

600
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:55,559
they're playing to put these under the

601
00:28:00,409 --> 00:27:57,330
table and winking at each other

602
00:28:05,539 --> 00:28:00,419
they know what's happening okay so what

603
00:28:10,190 --> 00:28:05,549
does that do in terms of shall we say

604
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,200
screwing up science if things are done

605
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:12,720
for show business rather than for the

606
00:28:17,989 --> 00:28:14,970
sake of discovering how our universe

607
00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:17,999
works and how individual things operate

608
00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:21,779
well I think for the rank-and-file

609
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:24,840
individual for the vast majority of

610
00:28:30,289 --> 00:28:28,200
people science especially when you get

611
00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:30,299
into the deep stuff like physics and

612
00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:34,830
cosmology is extremely complex and for

613
00:28:40,159 --> 00:28:37,080
most people it's what we might call an

614
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:40,169
NFC it's a no fun zone there's a lot of

615
00:28:47,450 --> 00:28:43,830
hard work and learning I and it and it's

616
00:28:49,370 --> 00:28:47,460
very dry and it's very pragmatic and so

617
00:28:52,450 --> 00:28:49,380
I think that

618
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:52,460
scientific community for the most part

619
00:29:00,020 --> 00:28:55,320
realizes that they're never actually

620
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:00,030
going to how would we say it convert the

621
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:02,490
general public's thinking by and large

622
00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:05,360
to a state of mind that's very

623
00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:09,780
acceptable and receptive of deeper

624
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:13,710
science so they're used to putting out

625
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:18,480
these sensationalized statement that get

626
00:29:24,650 --> 00:29:22,440
the public's imagination fired the ones

627
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:24,660
that are in the public limelight are

628
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:27,150
very consciously aware of this one

629
00:29:36,410 --> 00:29:32,810
example everywhere you read or see on TV

630
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:36,420
they all talk about this dark matter for

631
00:29:43,790 --> 00:29:40,320
example as if it absolutely a fact or

632
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:43,800
the multiverse which is very exciting to

633
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:46,230
a lot of different interest in genres

634
00:29:51,770 --> 00:29:48,510
they'll talk about it like it didn't

635
00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:51,780
have to lose back when in fact is the

636
00:29:58,490 --> 00:29:55,220
multiverse ideas pure speculation and

637
00:30:01,010 --> 00:29:58,500
the dark matter issue they all know that

638
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:01,020
they have no proof of the existence of

639
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:03,090
this and yet they'll talk about it like

640
00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:06,090
it's a foregone conclusion you know not

641
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:09,030
only to simplify things but to increase

642
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:11,370
that sensationalism and the more

643
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,410
attention to scientific community get

644
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:15,600
and the more sport it gets the more

645
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:19,200
funding it yet and so a lot of the

646
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:22,850
motivation runs along those lines people

647
00:30:28,510 --> 00:30:24,990
forget that there is a distinction

648
00:30:31,670 --> 00:30:28,520
between the discipline of science and

649
00:30:33,980 --> 00:30:31,680
scientists scientists are just as human

650
00:30:37,340 --> 00:30:33,990
as the rest of us and have the same

651
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:37,350
kinds of agendas and ulterior motives

652
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:40,650
and concerns that any other human does

653
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:42,450
whereas science itself is a pure

654
00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:44,250
discipline if you follow the different

655
00:30:49,550 --> 00:30:47,100
Sun today isn't also a problem of

656
00:30:53,030 --> 00:30:49,560
getting grants I mean if you want to

657
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:53,040
make a living and the college professor

658
00:30:58,220 --> 00:30:55,710
may not be a particularly rich person if

659
00:30:59,770 --> 00:30:58,230
you get a grant to do some research you

660
00:31:02,899 --> 00:30:59,780
make some extra money

661
00:31:05,649 --> 00:31:02,909
absolutely and that also work

662
00:31:09,349 --> 00:31:05,659
very very powerfully towards mainstream

663
00:31:12,739 --> 00:31:09,359
physicists not getting involved in areas

664
00:31:14,989 --> 00:31:12,749
like the paranormal or the supernatural

665
00:31:18,019 --> 00:31:14,999
I just recently had a conversation in

666
00:31:20,659 --> 00:31:18,029
fact with a gentleman out in California

667
00:31:23,479 --> 00:31:20,669
who had come up with some aspect of a

668
00:31:27,229 --> 00:31:23,489
very interesting theory and there were

669
00:31:30,619 --> 00:31:27,239
certain spiritual overtones to it but it

670
00:31:33,769 --> 00:31:30,629
was very good work and he begged me not

671
00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:33,779
to publicize it to mention his name in

672
00:31:39,979 --> 00:31:36,840
any way because he actually works for a

673
00:31:42,229 --> 00:31:39,989
corporation who's under contract with a

674
00:31:45,409 --> 00:31:42,239
division of the federal government and

675
00:31:47,180 --> 00:31:45,419
he said absolutely not don't mention my

676
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:47,190
name you never talked to me you don't

677
00:31:51,529 --> 00:31:49,679
know who I am because I'm planning to

678
00:31:53,899 --> 00:31:51,539
retire in about a year and a half and

679
00:31:57,499 --> 00:31:53,909
then I begin can begin to go public with

680
00:32:00,139 --> 00:31:57,509
these ideas so we have to be politically

681
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:00,149
correct and if we're not well for

682
00:32:06,469 --> 00:32:04,409
example dr. McDonald in the 1960s when

683
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:06,479
he spoke out in favor of the reality of

684
00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:11,279
UFOs he didn't feel the love yeah I can

685
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,580
understand that you know one of the

686
00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:16,320
things that we'll be talking about today

687
00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:20,700
and it's important for people to

688
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:23,869
understand this is that the modern

689
00:32:31,869 --> 00:32:28,529
paradigm of mainstream physics for a

690
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:31,879
variety of reasons is what we might call

691
00:32:38,749 --> 00:32:36,090
materialism they call it physicalism but

692
00:32:41,389 --> 00:32:38,759
it's actually materialism and that is

693
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:41,399
that everything that all of reality is

694
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:46,200
material everything is physical that

695
00:32:49,999 --> 00:32:48,210
there is no such thing as anything that

696
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,009
lies outside of the physical the

697
00:32:55,460 --> 00:32:52,559
physical universe is reality and reality

698
00:32:59,060 --> 00:32:55,470
is the physical universe and when you

699
00:33:01,279 --> 00:32:59,070
argue as I do that reality is bigger

700
00:33:03,409 --> 00:33:01,289
than the physical universe that there

701
00:33:06,259 --> 00:33:03,419
are aspects to reality that are not

702
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:06,269
physical not only do you get into some

703
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,519
strange problems with peer pressure as

704
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:13,440
with you've got a dartboard on your

705
00:33:22,669 --> 00:33:16,740
backside essentially

706
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:22,679
yeah but also where a scientist don't

707
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:26,730
provide their own funding corporations

708
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:31,919
do governments do certain institutions

709
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:35,370
do and they're all interested in one

710
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:38,880
thing and that is a material return on

711
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:41,370
their investment they want something

712
00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:43,890
tangible they want to be able to pick it

713
00:33:50,299 --> 00:33:46,980
up use it look at it shoot it launch it

714
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:50,309
this is what they want when you start

715
00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:51,570
talking about things that aren't

716
00:33:59,419 --> 00:33:56,340
material you know you're not on the most

717
00:34:02,240 --> 00:33:59,429
favored nation list that's for sure all

718
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,250
right let's go to the beginnings of your

719
00:34:06,889 --> 00:34:05,100
theories here did you have a Eureka

720
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:06,899
moment somewhere in your life where you

721
00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:09,089
said you know what I'm gonna come up

722
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:11,849
with this book behind the cosmic veil

723
00:34:19,339 --> 00:34:14,220
and my vision of reality

724
00:34:22,339 --> 00:34:19,349
how did develop well you know I I had

725
00:34:24,619 --> 00:34:22,349
some experiences in my late teens and

726
00:34:28,129 --> 00:34:24,629
early 20s as you know I don't talk about

727
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,139
them on the air but you know they were

728
00:34:32,589 --> 00:34:30,480
is one might call them supernatural in

729
00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:32,599
nature one like want parapsychological

730
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:36,419
but the reality of them called me to

731
00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:38,700
call and it caused me to call any

732
00:34:47,450 --> 00:34:43,020
question the model of reality that I was

733
00:34:50,349 --> 00:34:47,460
taught in physics that the models that

734
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:50,359
we have of what reality is

735
00:34:56,810 --> 00:34:54,570
doesn't really accommodate or explain of

736
00:35:00,530 --> 00:34:56,820
these types of what people would call

737
00:35:02,450 --> 00:35:00,540
paranormal or supernatural phenomena now

738
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:02,460
of course when you experience it

739
00:35:07,579 --> 00:35:04,770
yourself you're not doing some sort of

740
00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:07,589
an armchair quarterbacking wondering you

741
00:35:14,570 --> 00:35:11,550
know whether it occurred or not these

742
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:14,580
events do occur and they are natural

743
00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:15,930
occurrences

744
00:35:19,690 --> 00:35:17,820
they've been reported and have been

745
00:35:23,570 --> 00:35:19,700
going on for generations and generations

746
00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:23,580
before there was any kind of technology

747
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:25,380
that was available that they could be

748
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:29,760
attributed to we in any form so these

749
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:30,240
are

750
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:33,119
naturally occurring event that must

751
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:35,490
conform to the laws and principles to

752
00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:37,890
govern the greater universe in which

753
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:41,670
those events occur and if the current

754
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:44,280
models do not accommodate it do not

755
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:47,130
explain it then the current models are

756
00:35:51,890 --> 00:35:49,560
either insufficient they're lacking

757
00:35:54,980 --> 00:35:51,900
something or they're incorrect there's

758
00:35:59,330 --> 00:35:54,990
something Pauli about so that's what

759
00:36:03,500 --> 00:35:59,340
sport you know spurred me to come up

760
00:36:06,830 --> 00:36:03,510
with a new conceptual model of reality

761
00:36:09,830 --> 00:36:06,840
that would accommodate scientific

762
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:09,840
findings I would explain scientific

763
00:36:14,570 --> 00:36:12,480
anomalies that we have I would also

764
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:14,580
incorporate what we call paranormal and

765
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:17,280
supernatural now one of the things we

766
00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:20,280
see in science is if something doesn't

767
00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:23,940
fit within their framework it's just as

768
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,950
convenient to say hey this does not

769
00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:28,320
exist because it doesn't exist we don't

770
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:29,700
have to pay attention to it we don't

771
00:36:34,490 --> 00:36:32,250
have to change our beliefs we don't have

772
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:34,500
to give up on that lucrative grant

773
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:36,960
Thomas Fusco joining gene and Chris

774
00:36:48,350 --> 00:36:40,120
you're in the pair cast

775
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:51,710
the GC and radio network providing the

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and great talk radio starts here is

778
00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:04,500
there a secret UFO agenda to strange

779
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:06,630
creatures from the darkest corners of

780
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:09,090
the mind roam the earth is there

781
00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:11,910
evidence for mind control time travel or

782
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[Music]

797
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00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:04,220
they say I owe them over $16,000 I don't

799
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have that kind of money but the notice

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said if I don't pay it in 30 days

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they're gonna go into my bank account

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and take my money put a lien on my house

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and garnish my wages can they really do

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that if you owe back taxes unless you

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get help the IRS can do all that and

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listening to the podcast

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[Music]

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00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:22,450
with gene and Chris we have Thomas Fusco

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the book is behind the cosmic veil a new

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vision of reality so you're looking at

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from the other end that we have things

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going on that appear to be real let's

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figure out why they're happening and how

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it integrates with our vision of reality

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00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:41,710
we don't have many visions of reality we

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have an overall vision of reality that

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encompasses all this stuff is that what

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you're saying yes and one of the

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evidences I would tear one of the

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arguments that lead that leads myself

887
00:42:01,440 --> 00:41:57,880
and some other people in the field in

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this direction is that the mainstream

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00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:05,830
physical paradigm in science is that for

890
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every physical observation for every

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physical effect that we that we observe

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and if we can observe it and measure it

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it has to be physical there must also be

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a physical cause located in the same

895
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physical universe and so this paradigm

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has worked very well for hundreds of

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years but over the last couple decades

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particularly last several decades from

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the 80s on our instrumentation has

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become so good at measuring and

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detecting things that we are actually

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running out of material causes we have

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more physical effects than we have

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physical causes to attribute to it and

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so a perfect example is this idea where

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we discovered that there's 85% more

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gravitational effect that we can observe

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in the physical universe than there is

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physical mass to caused it and so being

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in a physical paradigm we have to come

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up with a material that contained in the

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physical universe to accommodate this

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effect and so physics makes up this

914
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imaginary substance called dark matter

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and they just add as much as they need

916
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to balance the formula and they have

917
00:43:30,180 --> 00:43:27,340
absolutely no evidence

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00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:30,190
that exists but in their mind it must

919
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exist because there cannot be anything

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that exists outside the physical what is

921
00:43:41,310 --> 00:43:38,680
dark matter at all what is what we

922
00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:41,320
consider the conventional definition of

923
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:43,240
dark matter or is it something other

924
00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:45,550
than the name of a radio show from Don

925
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:49,270
Ecker called dark matters what is dark

926
00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:51,430
matter other than a catch-all place to

927
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:53,590
put everything you can't figure out well

928
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in a sense that's what it is in other

929
00:44:02,730 --> 00:43:59,500
words the paradigm is everything in

930
00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:02,740
reality has to be physical and so here

931
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we have this effect that traditionally

932
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we believe that mass bends the space

933
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around it and produces this effect

934
00:44:20,070 --> 00:44:17,290
that's called gravity now here we have

935
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,080
all these observations of gravity where

936
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we have no visible mass to jacent to it

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or what we call local to the effect so

938
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the only solution is to make up an

939
00:44:37,530 --> 00:44:33,400
imaginary substance that would explain

940
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:37,540
the mass that has to be causing the

941
00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:40,270
gravitational effect we have no evidence

942
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,540
to touch mass exists in fact what

943
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:45,280
right-wing science says it has to be

944
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:49,330
there well yeah materialism says it has

945
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:52,990
to be there and so our science is being

946
00:45:01,010 --> 00:44:56,530
focused down this tunnel that everything

947
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:01,020
has to be material and consequently that

948
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:05,280
that also is a discouragement towards

949
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,210
studying things like paranormal

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00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:10,240
phenomena because here again we have a

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00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:12,880
collection of observation for which

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00:45:23,070 --> 00:45:16,720
there is no direct physical observable

953
00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:23,080
cause local to the effect and so yeah

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00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:25,390
anything outside of materialism here be

955
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,720
monsters so we just make up what we need

956
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:30,880
dark energy is another thing that we've

957
00:45:38,310 --> 00:45:35,890
simply made up supersymmetry is another

958
00:45:41,250 --> 00:45:38,320
aspect of physics that we just simply

959
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:41,260
made up because we have these

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00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:43,330
apparitions these days novelties that we

961
00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:46,000
observe and we have no detectable

962
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:49,060
physical cause and so since everything

963
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:51,010
must be physical we just simply make up

964
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:52,720
some physical substance that would

965
00:45:57,210 --> 00:45:54,910
explain it okay then if we're just

966
00:45:59,940 --> 00:45:57,220
making up something to explain things we

967
00:46:02,790 --> 00:45:59,950
don't understand how do we find what's

968
00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:02,800
really happening well the first thing is

969
00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:06,760
is kind of do what Tesla did with the

970
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electron and aught of alternating

971
00:46:13,710 --> 00:46:11,140
current is to just kind of look at it

972
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:13,720
for what it is in other words what Tesla

973
00:46:22,109 --> 00:46:16,810
did everybody was working on direct

974
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:22,119
current and at the time and we they knew

975
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:24,970
that passing electrons through a device

976
00:46:28,890 --> 00:46:27,100
would make it operate if the device was

977
00:46:31,470 --> 00:46:28,900
designed correctly like a light bulb so

978
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:31,480
the more electrons you pass through the

979
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:32,770
more work that it could do

980
00:46:39,570 --> 00:46:35,440
and Tesla just looked at it for what it

981
00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:39,580
was and said well you know it's okay to

982
00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:42,220
push these electrons through but nobody

983
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:43,480
ever said it couldn't be the same

984
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:46,960
electron that you keep pushing back and

985
00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:49,030
forth through the device and it'll do

986
00:46:55,950 --> 00:46:51,670
the same thing just kind of looking at

987
00:46:59,130 --> 00:46:55,960
it for what it was instead of going down

988
00:47:01,920 --> 00:46:59,140
that preconceived path so for me when we

989
00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:01,930
look at the evidence all observations

990
00:47:06,810 --> 00:47:04,750
that we have in a physical universe to

991
00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:06,820
me there is a strong indication there

992
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:09,700
that there is an aspect of reality that

993
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:14,560
lies beyond the physical and that it is

994
00:47:19,310 --> 00:47:16,210
somehow connected to the physical

995
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:19,320
because it causes physical effects and

996
00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:23,530
yet it's not physical itself so in this

997
00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:27,150
particular kind of a model we have a

998
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:31,390
what we would call a a scope or a range

999
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:35,170
of reality that only part of it covers

1000
00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:37,980
the physical and then once we get to

1001
00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:41,350
luminosity the light speed which is the

1002
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:43,660
upper end of the physical universe there

1003
00:47:47,790 --> 00:47:45,730
must be something that exists beyond it

1004
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:47,800
but that is still connected to the

1005
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:51,790
physical this other realm so to speak

1006
00:47:57,980 --> 00:47:54,210
has gone by many names

1007
00:47:59,660 --> 00:47:57,990
it was Plato was one the first one to

1008
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,670
talked about it in a concise

1009
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:01,200
philosophical leg

1010
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:03,900
he called it forms would you say I again

1011
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,720
he called it what form that's our

1012
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:09,599
English translation forms he believed

1013
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:11,369
that there were these non-physical

1014
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:14,520
blueprints from which physical objects

1015
00:48:22,849 --> 00:48:19,740
were materialized and this idea is also

1016
00:48:24,589 --> 00:48:22,859
reflected very strongly in the Bible in

1017
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:24,599
the Old Testament it's called the wisdom

1018
00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:28,560
of God in the New Testament the English

1019
00:48:35,870 --> 00:48:30,990
translations say the Word of God but the

1020
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:35,880
underlying Brik is logos which is you we

1021
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:38,160
don't have an exact English equivalent

1022
00:48:44,859 --> 00:48:40,650
it's a Greek philosophical term it means

1023
00:48:50,810 --> 00:48:44,869
that matrix structure order bought mind

1024
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:50,820
pattern that kind of an idea what we get

1025
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:54,290
into the modern era we're talking about

1026
00:49:01,880 --> 00:48:59,130
mainstream physicists not not fringe but

1027
00:49:05,660 --> 00:49:01,890
mainstream highly respected physicists

1028
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:05,670
that in the 20th century dished up their

1029
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:09,359
own version of this idea David Bohm one

1030
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:11,010
of those prominent physicists of the

1031
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:13,890
20th century at an idea that he called

1032
00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:17,250
implicit order and he said this was not

1033
00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:19,980
physical but it contained basically the

1034
00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:21,630
blueprint for everything that was

1035
00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:25,260
physical and he said implicit order gave

1036
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:29,460
rise to the explicit order of time space

1037
00:49:35,780 --> 00:49:31,910
matter and energy which is that

1038
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:35,790
materialistic aspect of reality John

1039
00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:38,970
Wheeler called it pre geometry same

1040
00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:41,790
conic concept David Finklestein called a

1041
00:49:48,099 --> 00:49:45,630
coherent superposition and so here we

1042
00:49:50,839 --> 00:49:48,109
have some very strong scientific thought

1043
00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:50,849
considering this kind of extra physical

1044
00:49:56,359 --> 00:49:53,750
or extra dimensional aspect of reality

1045
00:50:00,589 --> 00:49:56,369
my particular version of it is called

1046
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:00,599
super geometry and I used those terms

1047
00:50:05,420 --> 00:50:02,130
for a couple of reasons number one

1048
00:50:07,339 --> 00:50:05,430
geometry is an existing term that the

1049
00:50:08,020 --> 00:50:07,349
average person can wrap their head

1050
00:50:11,470 --> 00:50:08,030
around

1051
00:50:14,650 --> 00:50:11,480
to speak to get what geometry is not an

1052
00:50:18,550 --> 00:50:14,660
obscure or you know a novel term and

1053
00:50:20,970 --> 00:50:18,560
then super is a conventional prefix

1054
00:50:26,020 --> 00:50:20,980
that's used in physics and chemistry to

1055
00:50:28,180 --> 00:50:26,030
label a superset of a system that

1056
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:28,190
they're studying so since whatever

1057
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:30,710
pattern might exist outside the physical

1058
00:50:36,730 --> 00:50:34,880
universe it would be a super set of the

1059
00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:36,740
geometry that we have inside the

1060
00:50:42,550 --> 00:50:39,350
physical it has the name super geometry

1061
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:42,560
or super geometric now I'm going to give

1062
00:50:47,770 --> 00:50:45,050
you the devil's advocate response to

1063
00:50:49,930 --> 00:50:47,780
that is is Thomas Fusco just doing what

1064
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:49,940
the scientists are doing inventing

1065
00:50:53,590 --> 00:50:51,680
something to accommodate something that

1066
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:53,600
isn't understood so they talk about dark

1067
00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:56,210
matter and then you have your particular

1068
00:51:01,150 --> 00:50:59,330
interpretation this may be a response

1069
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:01,160
you're going to have here that will

1070
00:51:07,870 --> 00:51:04,070
extend beyond this segment but maybe get

1071
00:51:11,590 --> 00:51:07,880
a start on it well it's a very valid

1072
00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:11,600
question and a lot of the quote-unquote

1073
00:51:19,690 --> 00:51:16,550
alternative theories that we are exposed

1074
00:51:21,850 --> 00:51:19,700
to simply take the puzzle pieces that

1075
00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:21,860
are laying on the table and try to

1076
00:51:26,290 --> 00:51:23,840
arrange them in a different way

1077
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:26,300
before I arrange this show in a

1078
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:28,610
different way we have to do this we have

1079
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:31,010
Thomas Fusco joining gene and Chris

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00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,970
[Music]

1081
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when stating a central bank issuing the

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welcome back to the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's Jane Steinberg with Chris O'Brien

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and Jean Steinberg we've got Thomas

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Fusco looking at reality from maybe a

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different angle

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so I asked the question in the past

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segment and Thomas was beginning his

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answer which is that maybe what he's

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doing is not much different than what

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scientists are doing finding a catch-all

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phrase to throw something in to how do

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we make what you're saying more concrete

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00:54:44,819 --> 00:54:40,690
well here's the thing and again this

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this comes from needing to explain part

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of the scientific method which by and

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large general public isn't intimately

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familiar with we form we make a

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observation we ask questions about those

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observations and we form hypothesis

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based on that observation and then we

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present the pertinent questions to that

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hypothesis that are within the scope of

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whatever aspect of reality that that

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hypothesis is trying to address once

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that hypothesis answers those pertinent

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questions in a consistent way without

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making exceptions to its own rules to

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address certain questions that are being

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presented to it then that hypothesis is

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elevated to a theory now what makes it a

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00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:37,119
scientific theory is that since this

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theory gives a slightly different

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description of an aspect of reality then

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the previous or existing theory does

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then that theory is going to make

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prediction not like Nostradamus

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00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:54,069
predictions but predictions about

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certain aspects of reality that are

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experimentally testable now the theory

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about dark matter every time they have

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done experimental testing on it

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they failed they've come up with nothing

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that their models say there should be

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something here we should be able to

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detect it here it should behave this way

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and they've come up with big goose eggs

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my theory actually makes these kinds of

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predictions as well but that some of

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them have actually been verifiable and

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furthermore this model explains more

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observations in other words it does

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incorporate a model of what I call

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paranormal mechanics that are consistent

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with the laws and principles of this

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theory that also govern other aspects of

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reality and so this is where my theory

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is distinguished from pretty much and I

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would daresay over 99% of all the other

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theorizing in this field that you've

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ever heard or been exposed to none of

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them make experimentally testable

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predictions but my theory does

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00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:09,160
experimentally testable how so

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all right let's give you an example I

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contend that the very beginning of the

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universe was as we know was non-local

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I'll explain what I mean because this is

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the foundation from which we need to

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move from if we're going to talk about

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the universe and how its put together we

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00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:32,980
need to understand how it first came

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into a distance and the predominating

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00:57:41,549 --> 00:57:39,430
theory today is the Big Bang Theory the

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00:57:44,299 --> 00:57:41,559
reason why the Big Bang is still with us

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is because we continue to accumulate

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00:57:51,269 --> 00:57:47,470
more and more observations to time those

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00:57:54,329 --> 00:57:51,279
on that seemed to confirm this model

1218
00:57:57,329 --> 00:57:54,339
that the universe began as what they

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:57:57,339
call a quantum singularity and what that

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00:58:02,339 --> 00:58:00,250
means that by a singularity and this is

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something that again general public

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00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:05,770
isn't real familiar with in material

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00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:07,930
space-time and physical space-time I

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AMThe I demonstrated to us and it's been

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verified over and over again that the

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physical universe is characterized by

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four independent variables length width

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and time this is the four-dimensional

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space-time that lays the geometric

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foundation on which everything in the

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00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:36,130
universe adheres to it is built these

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are variables or what we would call

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variants with a singularity we have

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something different going on than in the

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and then in the physical universe and

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that a singularity has no variable if

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you could imagine length with depth and

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time collapsed to a singular coordinate

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to where there are no differences there

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00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:00,849
are no variants that's what a

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00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:03,880
singularity is now the problem of course

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00:59:10,349 --> 00:59:07,150
is that without variance that cannot be

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anything physical so a singularity is

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00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:13,140
not physical it is outside of

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00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:16,720
materialism another description that

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00:59:21,329 --> 00:59:18,670
modern physics applies to the

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singularity is that they say it was

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00:59:30,060 --> 00:59:26,190
infinitely then and infinitely small and

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00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:30,070
the problem of course with that

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00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:32,470
description in terms of what what is

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00:59:39,930 --> 00:59:36,880
physical is that there are two values in

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00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:39,940
physics that anything physical cannot

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have and that is zero and infinity and

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00:59:51,150 --> 00:59:49,150
so consequently there is no infinite

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values within the realm of the physical

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universe and therefore this singularity

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01:00:02,070 --> 00:59:58,570
existed outside the physical it could

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01:00:05,250 --> 01:00:02,080
not be physical and yet what is physical

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01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:05,260
emerged from it so here in our very

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01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:08,650
concept of the Big Bang we have an

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aspect of reality because it was

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:14,140
apparently real otherwise it couldn't

1263
01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,970
have given rise to the physical universe

1264
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:18,160
that's like like science says there's no

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01:00:24,180 --> 01:00:20,970
such thing as miracles yet the entire

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01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:24,190
scientific paradigm is is all predicated

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01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:28,089
on acceptance of a miracle which would

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01:00:34,410 --> 01:00:31,510
be the Big Bang essentially yes although

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:34,420
that would be a you know saying

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01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:36,010
something was a miracle

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01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:39,310
in the field of science you know is like

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01:00:45,660 --> 01:00:41,650
somebody standing up in the middle of a

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01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:45,670
service at a Southern Baptist service

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01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:48,130
and saying that he was a pedophile he

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01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:52,480
though you were just science cannot

1276
01:00:56,580 --> 01:00:54,910
explain the Big Bang because what what

1277
01:00:59,099 --> 01:00:56,590
was before the Big Bang in other words

1278
01:01:01,710 --> 01:00:59,109
the big the Big Bang created everything

1279
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:01,720
so what was there that allowed the Big

1280
01:01:06,210 --> 01:01:04,510
Bang to create everything well here it

1281
01:01:07,770 --> 01:01:06,220
would have to be a miraculous it would

1282
01:01:10,530 --> 01:01:07,780
have to be a miraculous using the

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01:01:12,780 --> 01:01:10,540
Christian terminology and again

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01:01:16,609 --> 01:01:12,790
languaging is very important obviously

1285
01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:16,619
but for lack of a better language term

1286
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:19,180
the Big Bang what would be in a

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01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:22,330
miraculous event springing out of the

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01:01:25,590 --> 01:01:24,190
singularity you have everything okay

1289
01:01:29,130 --> 01:01:25,600
that's where you get into this whole

1290
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:29,140
realm of God in miracles and and the

1291
01:01:36,270 --> 01:01:32,770
impossible being being created by some

1292
01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:36,280
sort of you know divine force if you

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01:01:40,530 --> 01:01:38,350
will and and I'm sure we're going to get

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01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:40,540
into more of that type of thinking later

1295
01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:43,450
but my point here is that science has

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01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:47,080
had to had to kind of grant themselves a

1297
01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:52,030
mulligan here you know just in a golf

1298
01:02:01,820 --> 01:01:56,670
term now the philosophical workaround is

1299
01:02:04,140 --> 01:02:01,830
that the singularity ceased to exist

1300
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:04,150
when the physical universe came into

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01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:06,609
being even though we are talking about

1302
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:10,900
something from nothing because the

1303
01:02:22,130 --> 01:02:15,490
singularity is no thing which is nothing

1304
01:02:26,849 --> 01:02:22,140
I maintain that distinguished

1305
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:26,859
vanish that the singularity is still

1306
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:31,119
exists and it is continuously unfolding

1307
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:35,440
as physical reality that the process has

1308
01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:41,130
never stopped one of the mysteries that

1309
01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:45,790
science has not been able to tackle is

1310
01:02:54,690 --> 01:02:50,230
where Universal order came from

1311
01:02:59,340 --> 01:02:54,700
we have no way of explaining how this

1312
01:03:03,630 --> 01:02:59,350
early cosmic soup that was created by

1313
01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:03,640
the big bag suddenly began to form into

1314
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:06,760
particles according to very strict and

1315
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:10,030
rigid rules everywhere in the universe

1316
01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:13,690
at the same time we didn't have a kind

1317
01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:17,230
of a process where you know this

1318
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:20,560
primitive soupy what what Einstein

1319
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:24,130
called the unified field started to

1320
01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:27,010
coagulate in a trial and error method

1321
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:28,990
I'm going to stop the answer there we

1322
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:29,890
have to do the break

1323
01:03:34,740 --> 01:03:32,290
Thomas Fusco joins us with a lot more to

1324
01:03:37,700 --> 01:03:34,750
talk about as we explore the nature of

1325
01:03:41,010 --> 01:03:37,710
reality with two people who some say

1326
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:41,020
aren't real with gene and Chris you're

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in a cast so here's what happened I was

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placing an order online the site went

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down it just stopped responding it took

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placed the order with another company if

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attack of the rockets and it was a

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there is the coming of the protectors a

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former military intelligence man is

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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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his trickster voice because that is not

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real that's not his real voice and this

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slurring all your words I don't know

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Thomas Fusco joining us Thomas would you

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like to continue the answer from the

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last segment yeah what I'm talking about

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with order universal order is something

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that we have no explanation where it

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came from as I was saying we don't have

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this primitive early soupy field trying

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to coagulate and assemble itself as a

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certain particle like an electron and

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then it fails and then it tries again

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and then ultimately it comes up with an

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electron and all the other electrons in

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the universe were spawned from it that's

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not what happened it wasn't an

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evolutionary kind of a thing electrons

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began to form according to a very rigid

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standard of laws and principles

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everywhere in the early universe at the

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exact same moment

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so the fundamental order of the universe

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was also contained

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in this same stand you Larry so here we

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have something that created a spatial

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field which if we were going to talk and

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parallel let's say to judeo-christianity

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and look in the bible this field would

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be the formless matter that was talked

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about in the bible it's called formless

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matter in one place in in genesis it's

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called it was void and formless and then

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the order came to it which according to

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the biblical understanding in the Old

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Testament is the wisdom of God and in

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that structure of the wisdom the word

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light came forth and as soon as the word

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light came forth the formless substance

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materialized and took the form of light

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of photons eye and so this is the way

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that the universe began and we can look

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at this without the religious

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connotations of course but these are the

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mysteries that that we have to solve now

1472
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I maintain that the process from what I

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call the super physical or super

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geometric rather than giving it this

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nebulous idea of another realm or or

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extra dimensions when you hear laypeople

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talking about higher dimensions is

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generally a you know a clue that that we

1479
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really don't know what we're talking

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about but something that is super

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01:11:03,339 --> 01:10:59,989
physical super dimensional or what I

1482
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:03,349
call super geometric is still taking

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01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:07,520
place and my evidence for it one of the

1484
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:11,449
evidences I have for it is the expansion

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01:11:17,529 --> 01:11:14,329
of the universe and this is another

1486
01:11:19,089 --> 01:11:17,539
problem that physicists have by the way

1487
01:11:21,459 --> 01:11:19,099
this is all going to be leading up the

1488
01:11:23,649 --> 01:11:21,469
talking about paranormal phenomena but

1489
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this is this is kind of the foundation

1490
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for the theory here we have the universe

1491
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that's expanding I don't know whether

1492
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:32,599
either one of you fellows ever saw it

1493
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:35,210
demonstrated in school or somewhere

1494
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:39,170
where someone used a balloon to explain

1495
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the expanding universe and they drew

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:43,940
like dots on it now they blew the

1497
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balloon up right yeah that's that's a

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that's a fairly common I think but now

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way to to explain the Big Bang and the

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expanding the universe yeah

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unfortunately there's a huge flaw in

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that model that we weren't taught about

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when it was shown and the flaw in the

1504
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model of the balloon is that the little

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dots that were drawn on it are expanding

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off

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on the surface of the balloon that's not

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what happened in reality if the objects

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themselves if what we what is dye called

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material points or physical content were

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expanding at the same rate as the

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surface is a balloon we would not be

1513
01:12:33,070 --> 01:12:30,770
able to detect expansion because

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everything would be getting larger at

1515
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the same proportion

1516
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:36,770
it would look all the same to us there

1517
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:39,050
would be no variance and so we would

1518
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:42,320
observe no changes relative no then

1519
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:44,050
that's a really good point

1520
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:47,810
mm-hmm so you know this has to do with

1521
01:12:52,750 --> 01:12:49,760
critical thinking you know they're

1522
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really picked something apart and of

1523
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:55,400
course this is something that the modern

1524
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paradigm in physics doesn't want to pick

1525
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:00,530
up apart all that much because it puts

1526
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:02,330
them in very very uncomfortable and

1527
01:13:07,959 --> 01:13:03,710
uncharted territory

1528
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:07,969
so the reality is is that space is

1529
01:13:14,830 --> 01:13:11,570
expanding but the physical content in

1530
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that space the matter point the

1531
01:13:21,810 --> 01:13:18,500
coagulant areas is the continuous

1532
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:21,820
spatial field are not expanding

1533
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:25,489
so are there remaining constant or the

1534
01:13:35,890 --> 01:13:32,449
expanding at a less of a rate okay when

1535
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:35,900
we have this model of the universe

1536
01:13:44,380 --> 01:13:39,530
expanding with this idea of using a

1537
01:13:46,450 --> 01:13:44,390
balloon the problem is is that if you

1538
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observed a balloon you'll notice that

1539
01:13:52,330 --> 01:13:48,230
the dots that are drawn on it or

1540
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:52,340
expanding with the balloon surface the

1541
01:13:56,859 --> 01:13:53,360
problem is

1542
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:56,869
is that this doesn't happen in physical

1543
01:14:02,530 --> 01:13:59,600
reality what we have is that the matter

1544
01:14:06,879 --> 01:14:02,540
point which is what I am Stein called

1545
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:06,889
them or physical content in space stay

1546
01:14:11,260 --> 01:14:09,170
the same the matter points are not

1547
01:14:13,450 --> 01:14:11,270
expanding the mass does not expect they

1548
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remain constant it's a space around them

1549
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:16,810
that that appears to be expanding

1550
01:14:24,570 --> 01:14:20,690
exactly now here's what the problem is

1551
01:14:30,609 --> 01:14:24,580
is that I am Stein demonstrated to us

1552
01:14:32,290 --> 01:14:30,619
that that space is not an empty void in

1553
01:14:36,189 --> 01:14:32,300
other words in Newtonian Command

1554
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:36,199
mechanics Isaac Newton space was an

1555
01:14:41,410 --> 01:14:38,090
empty void there was nothing it was a

1556
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:41,420
nothingness it was occupied by matter

1557
01:14:48,340 --> 01:14:45,170
and energy that moved through a constant

1558
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:48,350
meter of time that these were all

1559
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,159
separate entity AIA Stein demonstrated

1560
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to us that space is a substance of field

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01:15:02,050 --> 01:14:59,300
it actually is a field that is defined

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01:15:05,709 --> 01:15:02,060
by four independent variables length

1563
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width depth and time and this field can

1564
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actually be twisted and bent which is

1565
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one of the things that prove relativity

1566
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:15,050
theory that we were able to detect it

1567
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:17,210
light can be twisted and bent around

1568
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these bends in space now you can't bend

1569
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and twist and war for nothingness so

1570
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:28,429
space is a substantive field so when the

1571
01:15:33,550 --> 01:15:30,170
universe is expanding

1572
01:15:37,060 --> 01:15:33,560
that means the space-time is expanding

1573
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:37,070
if the matter was expanding at the same

1574
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:38,960
rate like on the outside of that balloon

1575
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:41,810
model we would not detect any kind of an

1576
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:43,040
expansion at all

1577
01:15:47,709 --> 01:15:45,110
because everything would be expanding at

1578
01:15:50,109 --> 01:15:47,719
the same rate so we would have no

1579
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differentiation between observation

1580
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points to know that anything was

1581
01:15:57,459 --> 01:15:55,190
expanding if you know you and your house

1582
01:15:59,770 --> 01:15:57,469
and everything around it was expanding

1583
01:16:04,600 --> 01:15:59,780
at the same rate you would notice no

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change at all of course people say that

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we're all getting heavier all getting

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fatter

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we're going to want to cover a lot more

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yeah maybe not in other countries but

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you know we're supposed to starve here

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[Music]

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01:20:59,699 --> 01:20:56,349
hi this is nuclear physicist lecturers

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01:21:02,819 --> 01:20:59,709
and Friedman you are listening to the

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01:21:10,049 --> 01:21:02,829
barricades to the gold standard a

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01:21:11,519 --> 01:21:10,059
paranormal radio and don't you forget it

1706
01:21:14,309 --> 01:21:11,529
this is the power cast with Gina and

1707
01:21:16,039 --> 01:21:14,319
Chris Thomas Fusco making light over

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01:21:18,839 --> 01:21:16,049
something that's of course very

1709
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:18,849
complicated now let me ask you a kind of

1710
01:21:23,819 --> 01:21:21,489
a meta question here Donald that is okay

1711
01:21:26,549 --> 01:21:23,829
so we have an expanding universe we have

1712
01:21:28,139 --> 01:21:26,559
the Big Bang whatever it was what caused

1713
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that to happen is there some kind of

1714
01:21:32,969 --> 01:21:30,519
super universe that generates all this

1715
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stuff is our universe just somebody's

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jewel and somebody's necklace well I

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think that in order to answer that

1718
01:21:42,689 --> 01:21:40,029
question correctly I probably should

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01:21:44,789 --> 01:21:42,699
kind of complete the thought that I had

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01:21:49,529 --> 01:21:44,799
started you know that I was explaining

1721
01:21:52,489 --> 01:21:49,539
the just previously what this tells us

1722
01:21:57,169 --> 01:21:52,499
is that when the universe is expanding

1723
01:21:59,369 --> 01:21:57,179
more space-time is being produced now

1724
01:22:02,459 --> 01:21:59,379
astrophysics just as well it just

1725
01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:02,469
appears it just happens to and they

1726
01:22:06,529 --> 01:22:04,049
account it to another imaginary

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01:22:08,759 --> 01:22:06,539
substance that's called dark energy

1728
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:08,769
because when we take a look at the

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entire mass energy content of the

1730
01:22:16,739 --> 01:22:12,699
universe there's interference doesn't

1731
01:22:18,899 --> 01:22:16,749
that oh there's insufficient porous

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01:22:21,929 --> 01:22:18,909
necessary to cause the universe to be

1733
01:22:24,659 --> 01:22:21,939
expanding now if space itself was

1734
01:22:27,739 --> 01:22:24,669
expanding like the balloon then the

1735
01:22:31,079 --> 01:22:27,749
geometry of space would be expanding and

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all the physical content that's embedded

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in and dependent upon the geometry of

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space-time for its very existence would

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01:22:41,759 --> 01:22:39,429
be expanding with the geometry of

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01:22:43,829 --> 01:22:41,769
space-time and again we would have this

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01:22:46,049 --> 01:22:43,839
situation where because there would be

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01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:46,059
no differentiation in observational

1743
01:22:52,079 --> 01:22:48,489
points we would not be able to detect

1744
01:22:54,779 --> 01:22:52,089
the expansion so the main let me let me

1745
01:22:59,549 --> 01:22:54,789
interrupt here now I seem to recall that

1746
01:23:01,679 --> 01:22:59,559
the very act of measuring this rate of

1747
01:23:03,090 --> 01:23:01,689
expansion which is the Doppler effect

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01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:03,100
the redshift

1749
01:23:08,730 --> 01:23:05,470
is now being called into question as an

1750
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:08,740
accurate means of measurement that

1751
01:23:15,630 --> 01:23:13,120
there's there may be some shall we say

1752
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:15,640
in accuracies in the interpretation of

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what what has become known as the the

1754
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:20,710
the redshift or the Doppler effect which

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01:23:25,170 --> 01:23:23,170
indicates an expanding universe so

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01:23:27,090 --> 01:23:25,180
there's some question whether the

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universe is actually even expanding at

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this point well I think that that kind

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of information and I'm not versed in

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01:23:40,410 --> 01:23:36,850
every single new idea that's coming out

1761
01:23:44,250 --> 01:23:40,420
I think that the the idea of the Doppler

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01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:44,260
effect substantially answers a lot of

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questions and it gives us very accurate

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information I think if there's a problem

1765
01:23:54,690 --> 01:23:52,870
with the Doppler effect it might be what

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01:23:57,570 --> 01:23:54,700
we might call minutiae

1767
01:24:00,300 --> 01:23:57,580
for example we still use Newtonian

1768
01:24:02,930 --> 01:24:00,310
mechanics when it comes to the laws of

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motion even though we know that

1770
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:05,200
relativity shows that these are not

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01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:08,410
exactly right and on very large scales

1772
01:24:15,410 --> 01:24:12,120
we can see variations to show that

1773
01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:15,420
Newtonian mechanics is an approximation

1774
01:24:20,190 --> 01:24:18,550
so I would think any kind of a question

1775
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:20,200
as to the Doppler effect would be in

1776
01:24:25,620 --> 01:24:22,960
that kind of area for example in

1777
01:24:27,090 --> 01:24:25,630
Newtonian mechanics it's very Euclidian

1778
01:24:30,030 --> 01:24:27,100
in that there are such things as

1779
01:24:32,430 --> 01:24:30,040
straight line and relativity there is no

1780
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:32,440
such thing as a straight line because

1781
01:24:37,370 --> 01:24:35,170
all space is curved but you would have

1782
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:37,380
to extend that line for many light-years

1783
01:24:42,810 --> 01:24:40,330
be sure you would begin to detect the

1784
01:24:46,170 --> 01:24:42,820
curvature in it if one lesson was mass

1785
01:24:49,020 --> 01:24:46,180
in the way yeah you know that typical

1786
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:49,030
mechanic but in other words I don't

1787
01:24:52,140 --> 01:24:50,530
think that the Doppler effect is

1788
01:24:54,450 --> 01:24:52,150
something that's going to be completely

1789
01:24:58,410 --> 01:24:54,460
discredited we would have to write and

1790
01:25:01,290 --> 01:24:58,420
rewrite our own experience that what we

1791
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:01,300
hear the pitch of the train whistle or

1792
01:25:06,270 --> 01:25:04,090
the train engine going up and then as it

1793
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,280
passes us we hear the pitch of it going

1794
01:25:11,310 --> 01:25:08,800
down we would have to come up with a new

1795
01:25:12,510 --> 01:25:11,320
explanation for that and I don't know

1796
01:25:16,260 --> 01:25:12,520
how we would do that

1797
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:16,270
well I'm referring to the redshift which

1798
01:25:18,830 --> 01:25:16,560
is

1799
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:18,840
how the whole idea of an expanding

1800
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:20,490
universe correct me if I'm wrong I'm not

1801
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:23,760
a physicist but the way the whole idea

1802
01:25:30,410 --> 01:25:26,880
of an expanding universe scientifically

1803
01:25:33,980 --> 01:25:30,420
was created and has become the accepted

1804
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:33,990
model is because of the redshift and and

1805
01:25:40,550 --> 01:25:38,370
I seem to recall some paper being

1806
01:25:43,220 --> 01:25:40,560
written that's now kind of rocking

1807
01:25:45,380 --> 01:25:43,230
people's worlds out there that they're

1808
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:45,390
calling into question the accuracy of

1809
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:48,480
the redshift now now maybe you know

1810
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:50,010
again I should have been a little bit

1811
01:25:54,830 --> 01:25:52,170
more up to speed on this before we did

1812
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:54,840
the show but I seem to recall that it's

1813
01:25:59,600 --> 01:25:56,730
the actual measurement of the speed of

1814
01:26:01,190 --> 01:25:59,610
expansion that is being called - Hinda

1815
01:26:03,820 --> 01:26:01,200
question not the fact that the universe

1816
01:26:06,890 --> 01:26:03,830
is expanding but the speed of expansion

1817
01:26:10,030 --> 01:26:06,900
yeah and the fact that the universe is

1818
01:26:13,220 --> 01:26:10,040
expanding we have multiple sources of

1819
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:13,230
information like the Cosmic Microwave

1820
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:16,250
Background and the measurement of

1821
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:19,410
neutrinos and there's a number of

1822
01:26:26,810 --> 01:26:23,850
different indicators that show that the

1823
01:26:29,900 --> 01:26:26,820
universe is expanding my point was is

1824
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:29,910
that since space is actually a

1825
01:26:36,230 --> 01:26:33,360
substantive field that it has to be

1826
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:36,240
coming from somewhere that the space

1827
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:38,850
between objects in the universe is

1828
01:26:45,410 --> 01:26:42,330
actually expanding and my point was if

1829
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:45,420
it was just stretching then the geometry

1830
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:48,890
of the space would be stretching and the

1831
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:51,330
material points that are embedded in it

1832
01:26:57,230 --> 01:26:53,850
would be stretching also right I would

1833
01:26:59,480 --> 01:26:57,240
be imperceptible yes the fact that we

1834
01:27:02,270 --> 01:26:59,490
can perceive a difference means that

1835
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:02,280
space is being generated from something

1836
01:27:07,730 --> 01:27:05,250
and science that doesn't address this at

1837
01:27:09,620 --> 01:27:07,740
all they just say the force of expansion

1838
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:09,630
is due to what they call this other

1839
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:12,210
imaginary substances dark energy and

1840
01:27:19,610 --> 01:27:15,930
what my model says is that this process

1841
01:27:22,940 --> 01:27:19,620
of materialization from the original non

1842
01:27:26,300 --> 01:27:22,950
material singularity is still going on

1843
01:27:28,940 --> 01:27:26,310
the universe is still being expanded and

1844
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:28,950
generated from the singularity that

1845
01:27:32,899 --> 01:27:30,449
exists outside of the

1846
01:27:36,290 --> 01:27:32,909
first so that the physical universe does

1847
01:27:39,799 --> 01:27:36,300
not primary reality it is actually in

1848
01:27:42,620 --> 01:27:39,809
effect it is secondary reality whereas

1849
01:27:44,810 --> 01:27:42,630
the primary reality is non-physical or

1850
01:27:49,370 --> 01:27:44,820
what I call super physical or super

1851
01:27:52,250 --> 01:27:49,380
geometric this leads me to come up with

1852
01:27:55,879 --> 01:27:52,260
a one-sentence definition for the

1853
01:27:59,180 --> 01:27:55,889
physical universe as sounds wild but

1854
01:28:02,469 --> 01:27:59,190
hear me out I say that the universe is

1855
01:28:06,859 --> 01:28:02,479
an expression of materialized and

1856
01:28:11,989 --> 01:28:06,869
materializing information information is

1857
01:28:15,949 --> 01:28:11,999
a fundamental part of physical cosmology

1858
01:28:19,370 --> 01:28:15,959
today that so once we have an extension

1859
01:28:21,799 --> 01:28:19,380
of the traditional conservation laws of

1860
01:28:23,419 --> 01:28:21,809
matter and energy we all heard a matter

1861
01:28:25,899 --> 01:28:23,429
and energy can neither be created nor

1862
01:28:30,199 --> 01:28:25,909
destroyed today we understand the

1863
01:28:32,029 --> 01:28:30,209
information from how from which matter

1864
01:28:34,279 --> 01:28:32,039
and energy is assembled and formed

1865
01:28:35,149 --> 01:28:34,289
itself can neither be created nor

1866
01:28:39,969 --> 01:28:35,159
destroyed

1867
01:28:43,819 --> 01:28:39,979
and so for example we don't accept the

1868
01:28:48,259 --> 01:28:43,829
model the Hawking model of black holes

1869
01:28:52,669 --> 01:28:48,269
as the final statement because the way

1870
01:28:55,729 --> 01:28:52,679
that Stephen Hawking overcame the

1871
01:28:57,890 --> 01:28:55,739
violation of the conservation laws that

1872
01:29:00,500 --> 01:28:57,900
matter and energy was being created or

1873
01:29:03,500 --> 01:29:00,510
being destroyed was to invent something

1874
01:29:06,819 --> 01:29:03,510
that was called Hawking radiation that

1875
01:29:09,799 --> 01:29:06,829
emits out of a black hole and therefore

1876
01:29:12,020 --> 01:29:09,809
conforms to the conservation laws the

1877
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:12,030
Hawking radiation is not capable of

1878
01:29:18,259 --> 01:29:15,690
carrying information so we still have a

1879
01:29:20,270 --> 01:29:18,269
problem with black hole models and that

1880
01:29:23,060 --> 01:29:20,280
information appears to be being

1881
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:23,070
destroyed in them which is a violation

1882
01:29:28,660 --> 01:29:25,679
of this principle yeah it sounds like

1883
01:29:38,060 --> 01:29:28,670
the Department of Defense black budget

1884
01:29:39,919 --> 01:29:38,070
numbers but anyway if you if we

1885
01:29:41,540 --> 01:29:39,929
understand that information is at the

1886
01:29:43,939 --> 01:29:41,550
heart of the way that the physical

1887
01:29:44,450 --> 01:29:43,949
universe is configured when you think

1888
01:29:47,300 --> 01:29:44,460
about my

1889
01:29:48,530 --> 01:29:47,310
definition there is no aspect of the

1890
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:48,540
physical universe

1891
01:29:54,770 --> 01:29:50,400
that doesn't conform and comply with

1892
01:29:57,729 --> 01:29:54,780
that one sentence statement I think in

1893
01:30:01,330 --> 01:29:57,739
the parlance of scientific languaging

1894
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:01,340
there's a certain elegance there many

1895
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:04,170
physicists have felt the final theory of

1896
01:30:10,430 --> 01:30:07,650
everything conceptually will be such a

1897
01:30:13,250 --> 01:30:10,440
simple thought that even a school child

1898
01:30:15,890 --> 01:30:13,260
could understand it and this is the

1899
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:15,900
first statement that I've ever been

1900
01:30:21,370 --> 01:30:20,010
exposed to of you know a definition for

1901
01:30:23,690 --> 01:30:21,380
the universe which is all-encompassing

1902
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:23,700
that actually serves that kind of

1903
01:30:28,010 --> 01:30:25,770
purpose let's break it ver and let's

1904
01:30:30,430 --> 01:30:28,020
continue in our next segment we have

1905
01:30:40,250 --> 01:30:30,440
Thomas Fusco joining Jean and Chris

1906
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:40,260
you're in the para cast the GZ and Radio

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Network providing the world with

1908
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hard-hitting talk radio G C and grey

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talk radio starts here

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first game attack of the rock ODEs and

1911
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it was a critically acclaimed success

1912
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and now there's the coming of the

1913
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protectors a former military

1914
01:31:00,440 --> 01:30:58,260
intelligence man is contacted by a space

1915
01:31:03,050 --> 01:31:00,450
woman in a dream a dream that turns out

1916
01:31:04,490 --> 01:31:03,060
to be a nightmare because evil forces on

1917
01:31:05,330 --> 01:31:04,500
our distant planet are planning to

1918
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:05,340
conquer the earth

1919
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:08,010
this is gripping science fiction of the

1920
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:10,800
classic kind attack of the rawhides and

1921
01:31:14,450 --> 01:31:12,690
the coming of the protectors find out

1922
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more and Rocco is calm

1923
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that's Rocco it's our Ock oids calm so

1924
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here's what happened I was placing an

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order online the site went down it just

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stopped responding it took hours before

1927
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it returned but I'd already placed the

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order with another company if your site

1929
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goes down you could lose business and if

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you have a business or personal site

1931
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you'll want to know it's easy to run and

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it will stay online at iWeb your site is

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hosted on one of the most reliable

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networks in the world check it out

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i web.com that's i web

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komm an e-cig revolution is sweeping

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across the country but as yours

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is manufactured in arkansas with 100%

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american you support local jobs vapor at

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illiquid baile sig is top quality at an

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affordable price the very principle that

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once drove the American economy get

1945
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you'll be wondering why you didn't make

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the change to vapery e liquid viola sig

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a long time ago with sigcomm has

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1950
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advanced vaping enthusiast with a wide

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variety of hardware and also imported

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illiquid flavors as well plus the sig

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sigcomm or call eight seven oh five two

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twenty five fourteen forty with siggy

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cigarettes for today's modern smoker we

1962
01:32:59,380 --> 01:32:56,840
travel so much burglars look for houses

1963
01:33:02,290 --> 01:32:59,390
that appear to be easy targets but fake

1964
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:02,300
TV can fool even professional burglars

1965
01:33:14,830 --> 01:33:04,400
into thinking someone is home watching

1966
01:33:17,500 --> 01:33:14,840
television think someone is not watching

1967
01:33:20,590 --> 01:33:17,510
TV when I'm actually away from home fake

1968
01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:20,600
TV easily plugs into any outlet just

1969
01:33:24,910 --> 01:33:22,490
like a light on a timer and they're so

1970
01:33:26,590 --> 01:33:24,920
easy to use you just plug them in and

1971
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:26,600
they're ready to go plus they're so

1972
01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:28,730
affordable then we have one upstairs and

1973
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:31,280
downstairs fake TV is only thirty four

1974
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ninety five and makes a great Christmas

1975
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:35,840
gift order your fake TV by calling eight

1976
01:33:41,740 --> 01:33:38,930
seven seven five fake TV or go to fete

1977
01:33:45,010 --> 01:33:41,750
tv.com that's eight seven seven five

1978
01:33:45,890 --> 01:33:45,020
three two five three eight eight or fake

1979
01:33:52,970 --> 01:33:45,900
TV

1980
01:33:54,649 --> 01:33:52,980
this dr. Joel Wallach the dead doctors

1981
01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:54,659
don't lie guy have you ever wondered why

1982
01:33:58,130 --> 01:33:56,400
farmers can keep their livestock lean

1983
01:34:00,380 --> 01:33:58,140
and healthy just by feeding the minerals

1984
01:34:01,729 --> 01:34:00,390
in a nutrient-dense diet before markets

1985
01:34:03,530 --> 01:34:01,739
cut off their minerals leaving him to

1986
01:34:06,020 --> 01:34:03,540
crave high-calorie grains to fatten them

1987
01:34:07,610 --> 01:34:06,030
up so weight control is this easy why

1988
01:34:09,709 --> 01:34:07,620
does the medical system prescribe

1989
01:34:11,689 --> 01:34:09,719
invasive surgical gastric bypass for

1990
01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:11,699
humans if truth be told according to

1991
01:34:16,010 --> 01:34:13,830
research you can avoid over 900

1992
01:34:17,899 --> 01:34:16,020
different diseases just by getting 90

1993
01:34:19,939 --> 01:34:17,909
essential nutrients daily check us out

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01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:19,949
on the web at sons of liberty team calm

1995
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energy or a healthy start pack and get

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your 90 for life or dial eight five five

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three zero one team I said essential not

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optional and every day easy ninety four

1999
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:32,670
life on the web and Sons of Liberty team

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01:34:38,030 --> 01:34:35,250
comm our call eight five five three zero

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one team that's eight five five three

2002
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zero one team that's eight five five

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01:34:45,470 --> 01:34:43,110
three zero one team check us out on the

2004
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:45,480
web at sons of liberty team comm and

2005
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:54,090
Sons of Liberty team comm hello this is

2006
01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:56,010
rosemary ellen guiley and you're

2007
01:35:00,710 --> 01:34:58,050
listening to the podcast the gold

2008
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:00,720
standard a paranormal radio

2009
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:10,880
one thing that's certain here and that

2010
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:12,960
is when you have to do the break every

2011
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:14,730
nine to eleven minutes and we have some

2012
01:35:20,630 --> 01:35:18,330
very complicated processes to explain we

2013
01:35:22,850 --> 01:35:20,640
send them to have to interrupt but we

2014
01:35:24,650 --> 01:35:22,860
have five segments left Thomas and I

2015
01:35:27,230 --> 01:35:24,660
think it's important here we start

2016
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:27,240
moving into how the world of the power

2017
01:35:32,540 --> 01:35:29,610
normal integrates into this

2018
01:35:34,730 --> 01:35:32,550
all-encompassing theory can we start

2019
01:35:36,830 --> 01:35:34,740
moving in that direction absolutely

2020
01:35:39,770 --> 01:35:36,840
we're right at that point it's great

2021
01:35:42,590 --> 01:35:39,780
timing and in this it'll also answer

2022
01:35:45,620 --> 01:35:42,600
your previous question because we have

2023
01:35:48,820 --> 01:35:45,630
to lay the foundation of it now if the

2024
01:35:51,770 --> 01:35:48,830
universe is in a state of continuous

2025
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:51,780
materialization we have a we have a

2026
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:53,970
problem observing that and this is how I

2027
01:35:58,610 --> 01:35:56,250
explain it just about everything in the

2028
01:36:01,430 --> 01:35:58,620
physical universe guys is in a state of

2029
01:36:03,620 --> 01:36:01,440
full materialization I compare it to

2030
01:36:06,890 --> 01:36:03,630
standing on the side of the superhighway

2031
01:36:10,370 --> 01:36:06,900
on the shoulder and watching the cars

2032
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:10,380
with by at 70 75 miles an hour what

2033
01:36:15,170 --> 01:36:12,110
we're looking at is a state of

2034
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:15,180
transportation and it's fully realized

2035
01:36:20,390 --> 01:36:18,090
materialized state this is how we

2036
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:20,400
observe most of the universe we don't

2037
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:24,690
get to see where they bind the iron and

2038
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:27,330
copper out of the ground to make the

2039
01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:30,510
automobiles with we don't get to see the

2040
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:34,320
aggregate company that mined the oil to

2041
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:36,330
make the tar that they actually laid

2042
01:36:41,090 --> 01:36:38,730
down on the highway we don't see the

2043
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:41,100
cars getting assembled we don't see all

2044
01:36:46,190 --> 01:36:42,930
the things to go into we don't see the

2045
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:46,200
blueprint to form the order that created

2046
01:36:50,990 --> 01:36:47,850
these things we don't even get to see

2047
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:51,000
the resident who has the car parked in

2048
01:36:57,140 --> 01:36:53,730
his or her driveway gets into it started

2049
01:36:59,840 --> 01:36:57,150
up drives it on an access ramp and gets

2050
01:37:02,150 --> 01:36:59,850
up on the highway all we see is the

2051
01:37:05,450 --> 01:37:02,160
fully materialized state of reality so

2052
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:05,460
we cannot detect this materialization

2053
01:37:12,350 --> 01:37:09,840
process except in three areas one of

2054
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:12,360
them is certain aspects of the human

2055
01:37:17,900 --> 01:37:14,370
psyche which will probably not get into

2056
01:37:21,890 --> 01:37:17,910
today one of them is the world of

2057
01:37:24,770 --> 01:37:21,900
quantum physics quantum mechanic I may

2058
01:37:27,260 --> 01:37:24,780
obtained that the weird quirky nature of

2059
01:37:28,939 --> 01:37:27,270
the quantum world has to do with the

2060
01:37:32,060 --> 01:37:28,949
fact that we're actually observing

2061
01:37:36,169 --> 01:37:32,070
physical reality in the process of

2062
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:36,179
becoming materialized and that's why it

2063
01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:38,730
certainly seems to defy what we see in

2064
01:37:44,419 --> 01:37:41,520
the fully materialized not birthday when

2065
01:37:46,790 --> 01:37:44,429
an observer observes something on the

2066
01:37:49,130 --> 01:37:46,800
quantum level what that observer is

2067
01:37:51,709 --> 01:37:49,140
doing is injecting fully materialized

2068
01:37:53,870 --> 01:37:51,719
base time into the equation and it

2069
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:53,880
crystallized the partially materialized

2070
01:38:00,350 --> 01:37:56,880
state of subatomic reality that's

2071
01:38:03,020 --> 01:38:00,360
another conversation altogether but the

2072
01:38:05,390 --> 01:38:03,030
third part the third place where we can

2073
01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:05,400
observe this process taking place in

2074
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:07,800
real time is paranormal phenomena

2075
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:12,560
because what we actually witness are two

2076
01:38:21,130 --> 01:38:17,489
different types of phenomena in the

2077
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:21,140
paranormal first of all we witness an

2078
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:24,330
alteration or a change in the local

2079
01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:26,850
environment that the quality of the

2080
01:38:32,750 --> 01:38:30,239
environment changes in some way and then

2081
01:38:36,169 --> 01:38:32,760
the second thing we see or what I call

2082
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:36,179
primary paranormal effects are the

2083
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:40,130
material the materialization of

2084
01:38:50,590 --> 01:38:44,690
information within those spheres of

2085
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:50,600
environmental changes and so for example

2086
01:38:57,229 --> 01:38:53,850
here's where what I would compare this

2087
01:39:02,810 --> 01:38:57,239
to I talk about normal and a paranormal

2088
01:39:06,350 --> 01:39:02,820
voice a normal voice vibrates the column

2089
01:39:08,270 --> 01:39:06,360
of air and that's got a certain

2090
01:39:10,910 --> 01:39:08,280
frequency and amplitude it's an acoustic

2091
01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:10,920
compression wave it reaches our ears our

2092
01:39:16,340 --> 01:39:13,920
eardrums vibrate with the mechanical

2093
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:16,350
force of the vibrating air column and

2094
01:39:23,470 --> 01:39:20,250
then our wetware our brain translates it

2095
01:39:25,939 --> 01:39:23,480
into an audible voice that's normal and

2096
01:39:29,209 --> 01:39:25,949
paranormal voices or what they would

2097
01:39:32,300 --> 01:39:29,219
call disembodied voices the effect is

2098
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:32,310
still the same we have a compression of

2099
01:39:38,129 --> 01:39:35,530
air that reaches a microphone

2100
01:39:40,919 --> 01:39:38,139
microphone and diaphragm or our eardrum

2101
01:39:43,589 --> 01:39:40,929
and translates it in the sound the way a

2102
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:43,599
normal voice would the difference is is

2103
01:39:49,379 --> 01:39:46,050
that there's no set of vocal cords

2104
01:39:52,379 --> 01:39:49,389
physical vocal cords locally connected

2105
01:39:56,669 --> 01:39:52,389
to the air column to make it vibrate so

2106
01:39:59,100 --> 01:39:56,679
without that local cause we're looking

2107
01:40:02,279 --> 01:39:59,110
at the same kind of effect I argue as

2108
01:40:04,770 --> 01:40:02,289
dark matter that we have this

2109
01:40:07,770 --> 01:40:04,780
effectively observed but no local

2110
01:40:10,979 --> 01:40:07,780
physical cause gravity it's not

2111
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:10,989
paranormal in that respect grasp as

2112
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:14,489
above so below in a stand but the

2113
01:40:19,260 --> 01:40:17,050
relationship that I'm drawing is that

2114
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:19,270
all of these are evidences that the

2115
01:40:24,959 --> 01:40:22,690
physical is continuously emerging from

2116
01:40:27,810 --> 01:40:24,969
the super geometric from this super

2117
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:27,820
physical that we can't directly measure

2118
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:31,090
all we could do is see the effect so my

2119
01:40:36,299 --> 01:40:33,250
argument says that the cause of

2120
01:40:38,189 --> 01:40:36,309
paranormal phenomena is the exact same

2121
01:40:41,339 --> 01:40:38,199
mechanical process that brought the

2122
01:40:46,620 --> 01:40:41,349
universe into existence from the quantum

2123
01:40:48,930 --> 01:40:46,630
singularity that's a pretty wild idea ya

2124
01:40:52,290 --> 01:40:48,940
know there it makes perfect sense so as

2125
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:52,300
I kind of interjected there the hermetic

2126
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:56,530
axiom of that which is above is the same

2127
01:41:03,299 --> 01:41:00,239
as that which is below or the implicit

2128
01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:03,309
kind of mirrors the explicate or the the

2129
01:41:10,169 --> 01:41:06,639
the macro is is a mirror image of the

2130
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:10,179
micro just in terms of relative scale

2131
01:41:15,359 --> 01:41:12,610
obviously is the difference but you know

2132
01:41:18,569 --> 01:41:15,369
there's a whole list of questions that

2133
01:41:21,779 --> 01:41:18,579
we have in the forum and a quite a

2134
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:21,789
number of them talk about your equating

2135
01:41:28,169 --> 01:41:25,360
Christianity's languaging the the

2136
01:41:32,339 --> 01:41:28,179
languaging in christianity the model of

2137
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:32,349
christianity as being a workable way of

2138
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:33,840
looking at many of these very difficult

2139
01:41:41,660 --> 01:41:38,530
and rather complicated theories and one

2140
01:41:44,580 --> 01:41:41,670
question from Dave M who's been a poster

2141
01:41:45,450 --> 01:41:44,590
longtime poster at forum dr. Peric

2142
01:41:48,450 --> 01:41:45,460
ask.com

2143
01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:48,460
he says if I understand mr. Foucault

2144
01:41:50,670 --> 01:41:49,270
correctly

2145
01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:50,680
his feeling is that Christianity

2146
01:41:56,370 --> 01:41:53,560
provides the guiding light to the way he

2147
01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:56,380
sees how the universe operates what

2148
01:42:01,620 --> 01:41:57,730
about other religions such as Buddhism

2149
01:42:04,020 --> 01:42:01,630
Hinduism Islam etc what do you think

2150
01:42:06,090 --> 01:42:04,030
about these face also doesn't he think

2151
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:06,100
that religions were created by men to

2152
01:42:12,210 --> 01:42:09,130
keep humanity in their place I'm not

2153
01:42:15,420 --> 01:42:12,220
sure if that's a relevant follow-up

2154
01:42:17,550 --> 01:42:15,430
question for the first one but we were

2155
01:42:20,610 --> 01:42:17,560
trying to I think separate science from

2156
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:20,620
politics here but but but is that true

2157
01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:22,690
do you feel that the language in of

2158
01:42:28,410 --> 01:42:25,900
Christianity provides us with as he puts

2159
01:42:30,780 --> 01:42:28,420
it a guiding light to see how the

2160
01:42:34,020 --> 01:42:30,790
universe operates and if so what about

2161
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:34,030
the other religions well let's talk

2162
01:42:38,490 --> 01:42:36,250
about that again I agree with you we're

2163
01:42:40,410 --> 01:42:38,500
let's set aside this Toshio political

2164
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:40,420
aspect of that because that really is

2165
01:42:46,980 --> 01:42:43,090
not an area that I get into and

2166
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:46,990
discussed but as far as the physical

2167
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:51,370
model you know I already talked about

2168
01:43:01,620 --> 01:42:55,530
one aspect of it that we're looking at a

2169
01:43:05,570 --> 01:43:01,630
model where scientific ideas that have

2170
01:43:08,460 --> 01:43:05,580
been presented by mainstream physicists

2171
01:43:11,370 --> 01:43:08,470
parallel the concepts that are in the

2172
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:11,380
Bible in terms of what I was talking

2173
01:43:16,290 --> 01:43:14,080
about with a formless substance that had

2174
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:16,300
an order that came both of these came

2175
01:43:21,390 --> 01:43:18,730
from outside the universe and when they

2176
01:43:24,750 --> 01:43:21,400
were combined together they caused a

2177
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:24,760
materialization of physical reality so

2178
01:43:31,290 --> 01:43:28,170
this is very very close to David Baum's

2179
01:43:35,610 --> 01:43:31,300
implicit explicate order his holographic

2180
01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:35,620
universe idea so these ideas are

2181
01:43:41,310 --> 01:43:38,080
relevant one thing I could say about

2182
01:43:42,900 --> 01:43:41,320
other religions let's let's talk in very

2183
01:43:47,450 --> 01:43:42,910
broad terms because again we're getting

2184
01:43:51,170 --> 01:43:47,460
into very sensitive area here but

2185
01:43:57,860 --> 01:43:51,180
judeo-christianity is to my knowledge

2186
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:00,420
or those things that are based on

2187
01:44:05,790 --> 01:44:02,890
Judaism you know Christian

2188
01:44:08,510 --> 01:44:05,800
is rooted in Judaism Islam is rooted in

2189
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:08,520
Judaism in the Old Testament Scriptures

2190
01:44:15,390 --> 01:44:11,760
you'd be hard-pressed to find another

2191
01:44:18,420 --> 01:44:15,400
religious model that shows the creation

2192
01:44:21,210 --> 01:44:18,430
to be a true creation of something out

2193
01:44:23,070 --> 01:44:21,220
of nothing and when you look at the

2194
01:44:26,850 --> 01:44:23,080
other religions they have these fables

2195
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:26,860
about this God married this goddess and

2196
01:44:34,050 --> 01:44:30,850
the earth emerged from their belly or

2197
01:44:35,970 --> 01:44:34,060
you know the head fell off and that

2198
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:35,980
turned into the world and you get all

2199
01:44:42,540 --> 01:44:39,520
these kinds of ideas the other thing

2200
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:42,550
about the Jewish document which is

2201
01:44:49,490 --> 01:44:45,760
unique is that it shows that everything

2202
01:44:52,170 --> 01:44:49,500
in the universe has a specific order and

2203
01:44:55,890 --> 01:44:52,180
that order applies to everything

2204
01:44:58,650 --> 01:44:55,900
including humanity it has a moral

2205
01:45:01,650 --> 01:44:58,660
structure and it has an ordered

2206
01:45:04,860 --> 01:45:01,660
structure as to how things were brought

2207
01:45:08,940 --> 01:45:04,870
into being we have promised fusco and

2208
01:45:11,940 --> 01:45:08,950
we're talking about his all-encompassing

2209
01:45:14,570 --> 01:45:11,950
theories about reality a lot more to go

2210
01:45:17,970 --> 01:45:14,580
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2255
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2256
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here's Jane Steinberg

2257
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2258
01:48:05,580 --> 01:48:02,950
with Jane christened the para cast for

2259
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:05,590
more segments with Thomas Fusco now I

2260
01:48:08,910 --> 01:48:07,450
wanted to ask you before we go on and we

2261
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:08,920
don't have many segments left so going

2262
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:10,810
to have to kind of keep the answers a

2263
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:13,330
little bit shorter and that is here when

2264
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:16,960
you talk about this order and this

2265
01:48:21,420 --> 01:48:19,090
regularity are you implying that a

2266
01:48:25,290 --> 01:48:21,430
Supreme Being put all this together that

2267
01:48:28,650 --> 01:48:25,300
to me that's a question of belief yes

2268
01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:28,660
these things smack of a creator there's

2269
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:32,230
no question about it one would have to

2270
01:48:36,930 --> 01:48:34,690
accept the idea that there was an

2271
01:48:41,910 --> 01:48:36,940
intelligent intent behind all of this

2272
01:48:44,420 --> 01:48:41,920
and then the existence of God in terms

2273
01:48:48,900 --> 01:48:44,430
of the judeo-christian image of God is

2274
01:48:51,690 --> 01:48:48,910
you know explicit at that point my

2275
01:48:55,050 --> 01:48:51,700
argument for it is this is that in

2276
01:48:57,930 --> 01:48:55,060
physics in science when we study systems

2277
01:49:00,180 --> 01:48:57,940
and their subsystems the subsystems

2278
01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:00,190
emerge from the laws and principles that

2279
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:03,190
govern the greater system no subsystem

2280
01:49:09,660 --> 01:49:05,530
of a greater system can operate in a way

2281
01:49:11,970 --> 01:49:09,670
that's contrary to or outside of the

2282
01:49:15,390 --> 01:49:11,980
laws and principles that govern the

2283
01:49:18,090 --> 01:49:15,400
system in which a subsystem is apart now

2284
01:49:19,950 --> 01:49:18,100
we human beings are intelligent animals

2285
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:19,960
have a certain level of intelligence

2286
01:49:26,250 --> 01:49:23,170
also what we argued in intelligence just

2287
01:49:28,260 --> 01:49:26,260
simply emerged then we have to say that

2288
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:28,270
we have transcended the physical

2289
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:31,530
universe the only logical explanation

2290
01:49:37,230 --> 01:49:34,210
scientifically is that intelligence was

2291
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:37,240
built into the universe otherwise it

2292
01:49:40,620 --> 01:49:38,560
would have never been able to produce

2293
01:49:43,650 --> 01:49:40,630
and intelligence subsystem like our

2294
01:49:45,180 --> 01:49:43,660
brains so consequently when you argue it

2295
01:49:48,780 --> 01:49:45,190
when you friend your argument that way

2296
01:49:50,580 --> 01:49:48,790
the existence of an intelligent and an

2297
01:49:53,730 --> 01:49:50,590
intent behind the creation of the

2298
01:49:55,470 --> 01:49:53,740
universe is almost inescapable all right

2299
01:49:59,400 --> 01:49:55,480
you know this question of just actually

2300
01:50:01,890 --> 01:49:59,410
arrived in our forums which of course

2301
01:50:03,450 --> 01:50:01,900
was pleased to find what you mean when

2302
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:03,460
you use the word God where did you

2303
01:50:07,500 --> 01:50:05,410
acquire the concept from trained

2304
01:50:10,440 --> 01:50:07,510
observer I almost think he was listening

2305
01:50:11,570 --> 01:50:10,450
to what you said well that happens but

2306
01:50:13,730 --> 01:50:11,580
certainly our

2307
01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:13,740
Donna I think a better explanation this

2308
01:50:17,780 --> 01:50:15,450
time of that concept than I may have

2309
01:50:20,900 --> 01:50:17,790
previously let's continue here though

2310
01:50:23,660 --> 01:50:20,910
alright with paranormal phenomena we

2311
01:50:25,820 --> 01:50:23,670
understand about how this relates but

2312
01:50:28,970 --> 01:50:25,830
what about stuff that's considered to be

2313
01:50:32,060 --> 01:50:28,980
pretty physical like UFOs are UFOs

2314
01:50:36,410 --> 01:50:32,070
physical craft from outer space or some

2315
01:50:40,220 --> 01:50:36,420
other place is that yeah some of that

2316
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:40,230
still quite speculative my theoretical

2317
01:50:49,090 --> 01:50:44,610
model does provide a set of mechanics so

2318
01:50:53,470 --> 01:50:49,100
to speak that would explain how an

2319
01:50:56,050 --> 01:50:53,480
intelligent civilization could design

2320
01:51:00,620 --> 01:50:56,060
spacecraft according to these principles

2321
01:51:03,860 --> 01:51:00,630
that would be able to transport so to

2322
01:51:07,060 --> 01:51:03,870
speak to other areas of the galaxy maybe

2323
01:51:09,650 --> 01:51:07,070
quite distant from its origination and

2324
01:51:13,690 --> 01:51:09,660
bypassing the normal limitations that

2325
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:13,700
space-time would put on such a voyage

2326
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:18,000
but what I argue is this if we strip

2327
01:51:25,070 --> 01:51:22,080
away the what I call the criminology

2328
01:51:28,660 --> 01:51:25,080
which dominates both of these fields

2329
01:51:32,300 --> 01:51:28,670
paranormal phenomena as bars awnings and

2330
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:32,310
UFOs a lot of the focus is on the

2331
01:51:38,690 --> 01:51:35,130
whodunit whether on the one side is the

2332
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:38,700
spirit ghost entity dead relative demon

2333
01:51:46,940 --> 01:51:42,000
whatever and on the other side we have

2334
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:46,950
black ops UFOs you know or or aliens

2335
01:51:51,740 --> 01:51:49,650
that kind of thing if we set those

2336
01:51:54,710 --> 01:51:51,750
things aside and take a look at the

2337
01:51:59,330 --> 01:51:54,720
actual phenomenon themselves we find

2338
01:52:02,840 --> 01:51:59,340
that ufology reports pretty much the

2339
01:52:06,890 --> 01:52:02,850
very same kinds of effects except on

2340
01:52:08,780 --> 01:52:06,900
larger scales that occur in haunting you

2341
01:52:11,540 --> 01:52:08,790
know we have materialization and

2342
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:11,550
dematerialization we have the adverse

2343
01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:14,250
effects on electrical equipment we have

2344
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:17,280
things that move that the five is known

2345
01:52:22,700 --> 01:52:19,290
laws the physics they move as if there's

2346
01:52:25,010 --> 01:52:22,710
no morphine shape-changing yeah you know

2347
01:52:28,430 --> 01:52:25,020
they make 90-degree turns there

2348
01:52:31,820 --> 01:52:28,440
no visible means of propulsion just like

2349
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:31,830
a you know a levitation where a book or

2350
01:52:35,630 --> 01:52:34,050
something flies across the room in that

2351
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:35,640
haunted house there's no visible means

2352
01:52:42,530 --> 01:52:40,530
of propulsion there either we find that

2353
01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:42,540
they exhibit the very same kinds of

2354
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:44,490
effect that we see in paranormal

2355
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:46,490
phenomena and I say this very

2356
01:52:51,470 --> 01:52:47,930
speculatively

2357
01:52:56,210 --> 01:52:51,480
but what I say is death yes and that's a

2358
01:53:00,200 --> 01:52:56,220
big if yeah there was a civilization who

2359
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:00,210
was finally able to crack the natural

2360
01:53:07,100 --> 01:53:03,410
laws that govern paranormal phenomena

2361
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:07,110
they could very well build technology

2362
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:09,450
based on those principles that would

2363
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:12,330
before would be able to perform in the

2364
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:14,130
exact same ways that we see UFOs

2365
01:53:21,470 --> 01:53:16,410
performing so we could build our own

2366
01:53:25,670 --> 01:53:21,480
UFOs essentially yes why not like we

2367
01:53:27,710 --> 01:53:25,680
would not already trying you know we

2368
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:27,720
have a situation for example let's take

2369
01:53:32,570 --> 01:53:30,930
information for example let's take an

2370
01:53:34,430 --> 01:53:32,580
instance where an investigative team

2371
01:53:36,110 --> 01:53:34,440
paranormal investigative team comes into

2372
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:36,120
a home people are complaining about

2373
01:53:41,780 --> 01:53:38,850
seeing this apparition of this lady and

2374
01:53:44,150 --> 01:53:41,790
one of the investigators goes to a you

2375
01:53:45,530 --> 01:53:44,160
know a library and finds a picture of a

2376
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:45,540
woman that lived there a hundred years

2377
01:53:50,420 --> 01:53:48,210
ago and they show the picture to the

2378
01:53:52,850 --> 01:53:50,430
resident to the house and their jaws

2379
01:53:54,440 --> 01:53:52,860
drop it said oh my god that's the woman

2380
01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:54,450
that we have been seeing you can

2381
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:57,360
recognize her from the photo well what

2382
01:54:03,590 --> 01:54:00,000
are we actually looking at what is the

2383
01:54:06,430 --> 01:54:03,600
photograph the photograph is a recording

2384
01:54:10,130 --> 01:54:06,440
on a medium of a collection of

2385
01:54:11,870 --> 01:54:10,140
information that was carried via light

2386
01:54:14,900 --> 01:54:11,880
waves off the surface of the object

2387
01:54:19,060 --> 01:54:14,910
through the camera lens and recorded on

2388
01:54:23,570 --> 01:54:19,070
the media now that materialization of

2389
01:54:26,450 --> 01:54:23,580
the original person is gone the material

2390
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:26,460
aspect of that reality is gone but the

2391
01:54:32,500 --> 01:54:28,410
information must still exist somewhere

2392
01:54:36,050 --> 01:54:32,510
because when the spirit the apparition

2393
01:54:37,979 --> 01:54:36,060
rima t realized is that information the

2394
01:54:40,590 --> 01:54:37,989
information is the same

2395
01:54:43,340 --> 01:54:40,600
that's why they can match the appearance

2396
01:54:46,110 --> 01:54:43,350
of the apparition with the photograph so

2397
01:54:49,470 --> 01:54:46,120
here we have a situation where something

2398
01:54:52,170 --> 01:54:49,480
has been Rhema T realized from the same

2399
01:54:54,300 --> 01:54:52,180
information but at a hundred year

2400
01:54:57,780 --> 01:54:54,310
interval at a different coordinate in

2401
01:55:00,750 --> 01:54:57,790
time so if we were able to dematerialize

2402
01:55:03,450 --> 01:55:00,760
an object we could materialize the Reba

2403
01:55:06,030 --> 01:55:03,460
T realize that anywhere okay

2404
01:55:10,290 --> 01:55:06,040
burnt State has a quite a number of

2405
01:55:12,150 --> 01:55:10,300
questions and this is I'm not sure I

2406
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:12,160
think you kind of addressed this already

2407
01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:14,050
Thomas but but let me go ahead and throw

2408
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:16,510
it out there anyway you say in an

2409
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:19,090
article on your website that the idea of

2410
01:55:23,250 --> 01:55:20,770
the universe creating itself is

2411
01:55:25,350 --> 01:55:23,260
scientifically irrational yet in another

2412
01:55:27,300 --> 01:55:25,360
article you say it is the curvature of

2413
01:55:30,090 --> 01:55:27,310
space that may be responsible for

2414
01:55:33,620 --> 01:55:30,100
creating matter is this a contradiction

2415
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:33,630
or are you saying that God is geometry

2416
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:38,730
well what I'm saying is that that the

2417
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:41,110
gravitational effect that we see which

2418
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:44,560
is the actual bending of space is

2419
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:47,110
actually originating from a process

2420
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:49,410
that's occurring outside of space-time

2421
01:55:55,170 --> 01:55:52,090
this is why we have all this

2422
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gravitational lensing that we observe in

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a universe with no adjacent mass it's

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like Theodoric elusive idea where he

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felt that he came to a conclusion that

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gravity may be a non-local phenomena

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that is not being caused by a local mast

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think about the beginning of the

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universe and this is something add back

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up in the paradigm symposium Chris where

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I talked to that woman who has the

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astrophysics degree not kind of

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reconfigured her education in about a

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half hour when the universe first

2435
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expanded and appeared we had this

2436
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bending of space that was this tight

2437
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ball ball of space-time but there was no

2438
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mass yet so the implication is the

2439
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curvature of space was creating a

2440
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gravitational field where there wasn't

2441
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any mass so what I'm saying if gravity

2442
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is non-local then what we're looking

2443
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is not an issue where masks bends the

2444
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space around it creating the effect

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called gravity because the 85% effective

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we see of gravity with no mass indicate

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that it's not dependent on mass to be

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generated this is the kind of show where

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it's very very difficult to keep the

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answers short and pithy the subject

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matter it's really really complicated

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and we want to explore it as thoroughly

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as we can we have to generate this folks

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with Gina and Chris we have Thomas Fusco

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para cast Thomas Fusco and as you see

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there's no simple answer to anything but

2564
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let's look at the raw question back to

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ghosts and apparitions could they simply

2566
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be as what many people expect spirits of

2567
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the dead well what I try to do again I

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try to stay away from the criminology

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and I want to look at the forensics I

2570
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want to look at the actual physics of

2571
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what's going on so I don't like to get

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into too many philosophical

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conversations whether it's a demon or

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your daddy and Mary or work this type of

2575
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thing I want to know how it's happening

2576
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I want to know the mechanics behind it

2577
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so I don't really address those kinds of

2578
02:02:46,420 --> 02:02:43,520
things really unless it's a

2579
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philosophical conversation a burned

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state has another couple of questions

2581
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and they I think they basically are

2582
02:02:56,860 --> 02:02:53,390
grouped around your terminology of super

2583
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geometry he says you suggest that there

2584
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is a fifth dimension and as yet

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undefinable process at work that can

2586
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help explain the many mysteries of the

2587
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universe

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if time is something that allows humans

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to understand change as a natural

2590
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process in the universe what does this

2591
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fifth dimension represent as an idea or

2592
02:03:21,060 --> 02:03:18,230
observable effect well here's what we

2593
02:03:24,700 --> 02:03:21,070
have the observable effects are there

2594
02:03:27,850 --> 02:03:24,710
what we're querying about is the cause

2595
02:03:31,390 --> 02:03:27,860
because we have no observable physical

2596
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:31,400
cause locally connected to the effect to

2597
02:03:36,060 --> 02:03:33,650
account the affective just like in

2598
02:03:38,650 --> 02:03:36,070
paranormal phenomena just like gravity

2599
02:03:41,860 --> 02:03:38,660
yeah even in gravity where we don't have

2600
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:41,870
a gravity wave or a graviton there's no

2601
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physical component to gravity but what

2602
02:03:50,110 --> 02:03:46,790
we're looking at is we're looking at

2603
02:03:53,620 --> 02:03:50,120
effect and we're trying to assemble the

2604
02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:53,630
logical cause for these things that

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would answer the most number of question

2606
02:04:01,360 --> 02:03:59,450
and so you know we're talking about

2607
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something that lies outside its base

2608
02:04:08,380 --> 02:04:04,850
time now what I argue is death if we're

2609
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dealing with a singularity then the idea

2610
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:11,870
of higher dimensions is false some

2611
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people listen to my work as they always

2612
02:04:16,330 --> 02:04:15,650
talking about a higher dimension not

2613
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really

2614
02:04:20,230 --> 02:04:18,200
I'm talking about something that lies

2615
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:20,240
outside of dimensions that is not

2616
02:04:25,210 --> 02:04:21,650
dimensional at all

2617
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:25,220
super dimensional or a dimensional so

2618
02:04:32,020 --> 02:04:29,330
this model really doesn't conform to the

2619
02:04:34,210 --> 02:04:32,030
kind of higher dimension concept that

2620
02:04:37,660 --> 02:04:34,220
was popularized in the science-fiction

2621
02:04:39,580 --> 02:04:37,670
of the 1950 kind of leads me to my own

2622
02:04:42,130 --> 02:04:39,590
personal question and that would be

2623
02:04:45,190 --> 02:04:42,140
agenda if we're talking about something

2624
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that is not apart from this reality that

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is actually somehow intertwined and into

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our perceivable reality that has always

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been there what would be the agenda

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where do you separate God from

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participant from agenda what we're doing

2630
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with that is we're getting into what I

2631
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talk talk about that criminology again

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02:05:11,410 --> 02:05:07,790
ultimately boiling it down to a question

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as if there is a God why did he create

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02:05:16,750 --> 02:05:15,050
the heavens in the earth and again I try

2635
02:05:19,570 --> 02:05:16,760
to stay away from those kinds of

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questions I want to know if there is of

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God how did he create the heavens in

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Earth and that's something that I can

2639
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reckon with because I had physical

2640
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:31,370
observation from which I can draw a

2641
02:05:37,090 --> 02:05:33,770
judgment as far as intent

2642
02:05:38,950 --> 02:05:37,100
I have no physical observation so it's

2643
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:38,960
really difficult to get into that aspect

2644
02:05:43,660 --> 02:05:41,330
of it well I mean you know you're

2645
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talking criminality let's let's use that

2646
02:05:49,390 --> 02:05:46,790
particular you know line of of language

2647
02:05:53,290 --> 02:05:49,400
in wouldn't there have to be a motive

2648
02:05:56,800 --> 02:05:53,300
behind paranormal events all sorts of

2649
02:06:00,520 --> 02:05:56,810
paranormal phenomena exist some of which

2650
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are inexplicable in terms of how they

2651
02:06:04,070 --> 02:06:02,840
present you know how the effects are

2652
02:06:05,870 --> 02:06:04,080
presented to the

2653
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experiencer in other words during the

2654
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great airship wave some of these pilots

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would be in noted as asking nonsensical

2656
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:16,290
questions you have this built-in giggle

2657
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:18,690
factor that is supplied in in many

2658
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:21,210
events I've had a number of cases where

2659
02:06:25,670 --> 02:06:23,370
people have have come back later and

2660
02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:25,680
said well I didn't you know want to tell

2661
02:06:30,470 --> 02:06:28,770
you what I'm about to tell you when I

2662
02:06:32,210 --> 02:06:30,480
originally reported my sighting because

2663
02:06:34,730 --> 02:06:32,220
if I had you would have thought I was

2664
02:06:37,340 --> 02:06:34,740
crazy and then they go on and and tell

2665
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:37,350
me some tricks Trish kind of element

2666
02:06:46,090 --> 02:06:42,110
that that really smacks of some form of

2667
02:06:51,230 --> 02:06:46,100
systematic methodology

2668
02:06:58,090 --> 02:06:51,240
clearly designed intent to to confuse to

2669
02:07:02,570 --> 02:06:58,100
obsolete a to to render inert and render

2670
02:07:05,150 --> 02:07:02,580
moot any sort of report that of this

2671
02:07:08,690 --> 02:07:05,160
type but there's got to be some sort of

2672
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:08,700
motive behind the criminality and you

2673
02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:11,610
you can't totally say well that's not

2674
02:07:15,350 --> 02:07:13,290
part of the equation you know I'm just

2675
02:07:18,500 --> 02:07:15,360
looking at it you know who the

2676
02:07:22,250 --> 02:07:18,510
perpetrator is I don't care why they

2677
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:22,260
have an agenda and I think we should be

2678
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:25,290
looking at the the motives the potential

2679
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:28,770
motives behind the agenda and I disagree

2680
02:07:34,670 --> 02:07:31,920
I think we need to we need to at least

2681
02:07:37,940 --> 02:07:34,680
entertain the motives behind the

2682
02:07:39,740 --> 02:07:37,950
criminality what what do you say well I

2683
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:39,750
would agree with you and I think what I

2684
02:07:45,950 --> 02:07:42,450
need to do is make a clarification if we

2685
02:07:50,990 --> 02:07:45,960
take a look at a you know a police force

2686
02:07:52,610 --> 02:07:51,000
that is investigating a crime scene two

2687
02:07:54,440 --> 02:07:52,620
of the different divisions that they're

2688
02:07:57,380 --> 02:07:54,450
going to have is criminology and

2689
02:07:59,630 --> 02:07:57,390
preventive and both of these are

2690
02:08:03,050 --> 02:07:59,640
important to understand the nature of

2691
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the crime but the criminology but say if

2692
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it was a murder that was done with a

2693
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firearm the criminology is not necessary

2694
02:08:15,890 --> 02:08:11,780
to understand the functioning of the gun

2695
02:08:17,899 --> 02:08:15,900
the ballistics what is what what what

2696
02:08:20,060 --> 02:08:17,909
bullet is fired what

2697
02:08:24,649 --> 02:08:20,070
kind of blood splatter pattern it made

2698
02:08:27,649 --> 02:08:24,659
so on and so forth if you just identify

2699
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the criminal that's fine but it tells

2700
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you nothing about how the crime was

2701
02:08:35,719 --> 02:08:33,419
committed and unfortunately Chris in our

2702
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particular genres where we're talking

2703
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about ufology and we're talking about

2704
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haunted houses and these kinds of things

2705
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I would say well over 90 percent of all

2706
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the theorizing that has been done in

2707
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these areas has focused on the

2708
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criminology what I'm doing is focusing

2709
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on the forensic I want to know the

2710
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physics of the gun you know when it's

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when you're driving a car down the road

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I want to know the physics of the

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automobile I don't want to focus on the

2714
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driver that's a different area it all is

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part of the total equation but when

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we're coming to physics it's like Bill

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and Ali both throw a ball and they throw

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it different ways in different

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directions for different reasons you

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know what's white billard Sally out of

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the picture for a moment how does Bill

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and Sally have anything to do with the

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laws and principles that govern the

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physics of the ball being from that's

2725
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the distinction I'm trying to make well

2726
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you know again the way Thomas you you

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you've explained this again in a very

2728
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clear clear way for me to understand

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it's not so much the effect or the

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motivation behind the effect but but

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it's the actual cause that's important

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here and you know with that being said I

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think we're gonna I want to remind you

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once again that you're probably

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wondering how we get those questions

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from our listeners that we ask of our

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guests and here's how it's done we post

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dot the para cast com called the

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targets to break into don't be an easy

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fake TV works a bit like a light on a

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timer but fake TV is far more convincing

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fake TV plugs into any outlet and

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simulates the light and colors of a real

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this is actually you listening to the

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podcast the gold standard of Carnival

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radium Wow I'm it's kind of weird

2845
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doppelganger effect here in four years

2846
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that's the first time I've ever heard

2847
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:13,850
that well a voice came out of the air of

2848
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an amorphous voice saying the power cast

2849
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some people might think it was me but of

2850
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course I wasn't even here I was getting

2851
02:15:31,780 --> 02:15:29,649
you're funny gene that was kind of out

2852
02:15:33,850 --> 02:15:31,790
of the blue Thomas you're bringing out

2853
02:15:35,410 --> 02:15:33,860
the best in the show here and and I'm

2854
02:15:38,140 --> 02:15:35,420
sure we're gonna have a great response

2855
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:38,150
to this appearance of yours just like we

2856
02:15:44,649 --> 02:15:41,570
did your inaugural appearance here's a

2857
02:15:47,649 --> 02:15:44,659
question from a brand new poster calling

2858
02:15:50,439 --> 02:15:47,659
themselves agnostic at Forum dr. Perik

2859
02:15:52,270 --> 02:15:50,449
asked calm and it's a good one it's

2860
02:15:55,300 --> 02:15:52,280
something not that I've kind of wondered

2861
02:15:57,520 --> 02:15:55,310
myself why have you chosen to promote

2862
02:16:00,700 --> 02:15:57,530
your theories to the alternative UFO

2863
02:16:02,470 --> 02:16:00,710
new-age Inchon alien audience and have

2864
02:16:05,439 --> 02:16:02,480
you received any feedback from

2865
02:16:07,030 --> 02:16:05,449
mainstream science or academics if not

2866
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is this why you are presenting your

2867
02:16:13,000 --> 02:16:09,920
theories to the fringe and what role

2868
02:16:15,250 --> 02:16:13,010
does Fringe play in this and will they

2869
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ever be able to influence the mainstream

2870
02:16:20,439 --> 02:16:17,900
into considering creative new thinking

2871
02:16:23,260 --> 02:16:20,449
about your theories and other taboo

2872
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:23,270
academic subjects well that's about

2873
02:16:29,530 --> 02:16:26,770
politeness let me say this is that the

2874
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alternative you can call a French if you

2875
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want but the alternative genres so to

2876
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:36,979
speak are the ones number one that my

2877
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material is most relevant to in a very

2878
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:42,500
immediate way because it provides

2879
02:16:47,230 --> 02:16:45,170
explanations for the supernatural and a

2880
02:16:50,290 --> 02:16:47,240
suggested experiment that can be

2881
02:16:52,629 --> 02:16:50,300
conducted so this is very important as

2882
02:16:56,980 --> 02:16:52,639
far as from the mainstream point of view

2883
02:16:59,389 --> 02:16:56,990
all of it is just vaporous until we are

2884
02:17:02,480 --> 02:16:59,399
able to submit a scientific

2885
02:17:04,759 --> 02:17:02,490
to the mainstream science community and

2886
02:17:07,250 --> 02:17:04,769
myself and my collaborative sociate

2887
02:17:10,400 --> 02:17:07,260
David Roundtree are not all that far

2888
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:10,410
from doing it no that's one of the

2889
02:17:16,730 --> 02:17:13,290
things that we need is in a scientific

2890
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:16,740
method is replication and so we continue

2891
02:17:22,849 --> 02:17:20,250
to champion this kind of a concept of

2892
02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:22,859
conducting real science when we have

2893
02:17:28,459 --> 02:17:25,290
enough people that pick up on this we'll

2894
02:17:30,530 --> 02:17:28,469
be able to get replication of certain

2895
02:17:32,509 --> 02:17:30,540
effects that have been measured and that

2896
02:17:34,549 --> 02:17:32,519
have been predicted by this theory we

2897
02:17:36,980 --> 02:17:34,559
haven't even gone into that aspect yeah

2898
02:17:39,950 --> 02:17:36,990
so that's what's more important as far

2899
02:17:43,030 --> 02:17:39,960
as talking to other people about this I

2900
02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:43,040
have spoken to people who have been

2901
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:45,570
scientifically trained again for example

2902
02:17:50,599 --> 02:17:47,760
that one woman at the paradigm symposium

2903
02:17:53,599 --> 02:17:50,609
and I just simply blew most of her

2904
02:17:55,639 --> 02:17:53,609
education away everyone who I've gotten

2905
02:17:59,060 --> 02:17:55,649
to talk to that has some sort of a level

2906
02:18:02,299 --> 02:17:59,070
of physics as all said this is very

2907
02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:02,309
fascinating and would answer a number of

2908
02:18:06,560 --> 02:18:04,530
fundamental questions that the

2909
02:18:09,169 --> 02:18:06,570
theoretical models that we have now do

2910
02:18:11,570 --> 02:18:09,179
not but everything has to take its

2911
02:18:14,629 --> 02:18:11,580
proper place in its proper time right

2912
02:18:16,370 --> 02:18:14,639
yeah and that's especially when you're

2913
02:18:18,770 --> 02:18:16,380
doing with the scientific community so

2914
02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:18,780
you've opened up a whole new avenue of

2915
02:18:26,089 --> 02:18:22,410
inquiry here where can you take this

2916
02:18:28,849 --> 02:18:26,099
work and what form would it need to take

2917
02:18:31,879 --> 02:18:28,859
to you know what sort of experiments

2918
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:31,889
could we propose to replicate data and

2919
02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:34,170
to gain the notice of academia and in

2920
02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:36,330
the scientific community what do you and

2921
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:38,969
David have envisioned to go about that

2922
02:18:44,839 --> 02:18:41,250
well a lot of the work has already been

2923
02:18:48,049 --> 02:18:44,849
done for example if we take a look at

2924
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:48,059
what I was talking about that paranormal

2925
02:18:53,209 --> 02:18:50,880
phenomenon reflects a real time example

2926
02:18:55,969 --> 02:18:53,219
of the same process that brought the

2927
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universe into existence the first thing

2928
02:19:00,259 --> 02:18:57,929
we had it was an expanding bubble of

2929
02:19:01,820 --> 02:19:00,269
space-time and that would have a

2930
02:19:05,330 --> 02:19:01,830
gravitational field

2931
02:19:07,580 --> 02:19:05,340
so if paranormal phenomena is the same

2932
02:19:09,980 --> 02:19:07,590
process the first thing that this

2933
02:19:12,760 --> 02:19:09,990
prediction this dispute will predict is

2934
02:19:16,840 --> 02:19:12,770
that preceeded

2935
02:19:18,670 --> 02:19:16,850
any materialization of information we

2936
02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:18,680
would have a change in the local

2937
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:21,650
environment that would reflect the

2938
02:19:27,190 --> 02:19:24,410
emergence of a bubble of space-time of

2939
02:19:29,860 --> 02:19:27,200
an expanding bubble that's pushing

2940
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:29,870
against the existing space-time that's

2941
02:19:36,100 --> 02:19:33,050
there and the physical content that is

2942
02:19:38,380 --> 02:19:36,110
contained within that space-time that's

2943
02:19:39,790 --> 02:19:38,390
already in that wanted okay so you're

2944
02:19:42,760 --> 02:19:39,800
talking about then there there would be

2945
02:19:45,850 --> 02:19:42,770
a priests age something measurable that

2946
02:19:47,500 --> 02:19:45,860
would occur prior to an event occurring

2947
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:47,510
now how would you what sort of

2948
02:19:52,030 --> 02:19:49,610
instrumentation would you need what sort

2949
02:19:55,810 --> 02:19:52,040
of protocols would need to be tripped or

2950
02:19:57,490 --> 02:19:55,820
alarm bells that would sound in order

2951
02:20:00,700 --> 02:19:57,500
for us to be ready for that because if

2952
02:20:04,480 --> 02:20:00,710
what you're saying is correct if we were

2953
02:20:09,730 --> 02:20:04,490
armed with the proper monitoring

2954
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:09,740
equipment or whatever I guess gear would

2955
02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:12,290
be the overall encompassing word if we

2956
02:20:18,370 --> 02:20:15,650
had the right gear to alert us that an

2957
02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:18,380
event was going to occur then that would

2958
02:20:22,930 --> 02:20:20,210
allow us to capture the event and

2959
02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:22,940
document it so right what do you suggest

2960
02:20:26,830 --> 02:20:24,650
what are you suggesting here that

2961
02:20:29,530 --> 02:20:26,840
equipment has already been invented

2962
02:20:32,230 --> 02:20:29,540
David Roundtree is the technician he's

2963
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:32,240
the electrical engineer he's invented a

2964
02:20:36,850 --> 02:20:34,370
lot of the testing equipment that have

2965
02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:36,860
confirmed the predictions of this theory

2966
02:20:41,950 --> 02:20:39,650
so one of the things that he invented is

2967
02:20:44,980 --> 02:20:41,960
what he calls the EMF quad relator

2968
02:20:48,461 --> 02:20:44,990
and this is actually an array of four

2969
02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:48,471
sensors that he can set up and he has

2970
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:52,250
software to monitor what this equipment

2971
02:20:57,461 --> 02:20:55,130
is picking up in a room and he's

2972
02:20:59,560 --> 02:20:57,471
definitely demonstrated number one he's

2973
02:21:02,470 --> 02:20:59,570
been able to demonstrate the paranormal

2974
02:21:05,440 --> 02:21:02,480
phenomena it begins from an emergent

2975
02:21:06,610 --> 02:21:05,450
point a very specific geometric location

2976
02:21:09,220 --> 02:21:06,620
in a room

2977
02:21:11,921 --> 02:21:09,230
let me just our listeners we had David

2978
02:21:16,631 --> 02:21:11,931
Rountree as a guest on the power cast

2979
02:21:18,190 --> 02:21:16,641
back on January 24th 2010 and there's

2980
02:21:19,301 --> 02:21:18,200
certainly no reason why he won't be on

2981
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:19,311
again in the near future

2982
02:21:23,950 --> 02:21:22,010
yeah it sounds like we need to get it

2983
02:21:26,030 --> 02:21:23,960
possibly both of you back on because

2984
02:21:28,670 --> 02:21:26,040
this is fascinating I mean

2985
02:21:30,830 --> 02:21:28,680
if we could actually have a set of

2986
02:21:34,730 --> 02:21:30,840
protocols and the right technology in

2987
02:21:37,820 --> 02:21:34,740
place in a particular location that is

2988
02:21:40,011 --> 02:21:37,830
known to produce unusual effects you

2989
02:21:42,880 --> 02:21:40,021
know this could be huge I mean has this

2990
02:21:46,610 --> 02:21:42,890
this gear and in these protocols been

2991
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:46,620
successfully used and demonstrated we

2992
02:21:51,440 --> 02:21:49,650
have I'm telling you when David

2993
02:21:53,960 --> 02:21:51,450
Roundtree and I got together and we

2994
02:21:58,040 --> 02:21:53,970
didn't know each other this was on an

2995
02:22:00,380 --> 02:21:58,050
interview in the early 2012 from that

2996
02:22:03,050 --> 02:22:00,390
particular moment the field of

2997
02:22:07,340 --> 02:22:03,060
paranormal research changed forever

2998
02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:07,350
it's made a quantum leap and it's just

2999
02:22:11,650 --> 02:22:09,330
most people in the field are not aware

3000
02:22:14,900 --> 02:22:11,660
of it they don't know what's going on

3001
02:22:17,410 --> 02:22:14,910
for example give me an example if we

3002
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:17,420
have an expanding bubble of space-time

3003
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:20,010
one of the things that we would detect

3004
02:22:25,850 --> 02:22:22,800
is an independent gravitational field

3005
02:22:28,880 --> 02:22:25,860
emerging in three axes not just a

3006
02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:28,890
fluctuation in the lines of gravity that

3007
02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:30,450
are going down to the center of the

3008
02:22:35,120 --> 02:22:32,930
earth this has already been detected

3009
02:22:39,350 --> 02:22:35,130
roundtree did an experiment where he

3010
02:22:41,140 --> 02:22:39,360
actually used digital gyroscopes I was

3011
02:22:43,940 --> 02:22:41,150
able to detect this gravitational

3012
02:22:45,890 --> 02:22:43,950
fluctuation we would also have since

3013
02:22:47,420 --> 02:22:45,900
space and time are tied together we

3014
02:22:50,930 --> 02:22:47,430
would also have temporal fluctuations

3015
02:22:52,940 --> 02:22:50,940
and the dilation of time with the

3016
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:52,950
expansion of space has already been

3017
02:22:57,650 --> 02:22:54,810
tested and demonstrated by this

3018
02:23:02,900 --> 02:22:57,660
gentleman another prediction that it

3019
02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:02,910
would make is that EMF or EVPs are an

3020
02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:05,850
electromagnetic phenomenon they are a

3021
02:23:12,530 --> 02:23:08,720
result of an electronic compression wave

3022
02:23:14,810 --> 02:23:12,540
being generated at the surface of this

3023
02:23:17,900 --> 02:23:14,820
space-time bubble interacting with the

3024
02:23:20,690 --> 02:23:17,910
physical content and and exciting the

3025
02:23:23,270 --> 02:23:20,700
electrons in the atoms and molecules of

3026
02:23:25,630 --> 02:23:23,280
the air and whatever building materials

3027
02:23:28,220 --> 02:23:25,640
it would hit and if we have a

3028
02:23:31,310 --> 02:23:28,230
materializing information inside that

3029
02:23:33,380 --> 02:23:31,320
bubble like a vocalization the outside

3030
02:23:35,060 --> 02:23:33,390
of that bubble is because again begin to

3031
02:23:37,730 --> 02:23:35,070
vibrate at the frequency and amplitude

3032
02:23:39,889 --> 02:23:37,740
of that vocalization

3033
02:23:42,710 --> 02:23:39,899
and so we have an electrode

3034
02:23:45,609 --> 02:23:42,720
in a compression wave that bypasses the

3035
02:23:48,679 --> 02:23:45,619
acoustic diaphragm and the eardrum

3036
02:23:51,050 --> 02:23:48,689
because it's electromagnetic it poses

3037
02:23:54,620 --> 02:23:51,060
itself and ducts it itself directly on

3038
02:23:57,170 --> 02:23:54,630
the acoustic coils behind the diaphragm

3039
02:24:00,130 --> 02:23:57,180
and then we hear the recorded voice

3040
02:24:02,210 --> 02:24:00,140
where nobody heard it audibly one of the

3041
02:24:04,460 --> 02:24:02,220
experiments two experiments that have

3042
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:04,470
been predicted by this model is that we

3043
02:24:09,469 --> 02:24:06,810
should be able to record EVPs in a

3044
02:24:11,960 --> 02:24:09,479
vacuum and we should be able to record

3045
02:24:13,519 --> 02:24:11,970
EVPs with a dynamic microphone in which

3046
02:24:15,920 --> 02:24:13,529
the acoustic diaphragm has been

3047
02:24:18,649 --> 02:24:15,930
surgically removed we'll go into more of

3048
02:24:28,309 --> 02:24:18,659
this with Gina and Chris talking to

3049
02:24:31,130 --> 02:24:28,319
Thomas Fusco you're in the para cast the

3050
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3065
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3066
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3067
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3068
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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

3069
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3070
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because evil forces on our distant

3071
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planet are planning to conquer the earth

3072
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3089
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3090
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let's not forget those 13 million

3091
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homeless without food or clean water

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before we sit down to our bountiful

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family's future that personal finance

3114
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expert and radio host Dave Ramsey has

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3122
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3125
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3126
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percent of small businesses plan to

3127
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eliminate jobs or reduce workers hours

3128
02:27:49,330 --> 02:27:47,720
to part-time your fire

3129
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:49,340
according to Gallup the unemployment

3130
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:51,050
rate recently jumped to nearly nine

3131
02:27:55,059 --> 02:27:53,210
percent and the underemployment rate hit

3132
02:27:56,500 --> 02:27:55,069
a staggering seventeen point nine

3133
02:27:58,389 --> 02:27:56,510
percent you're fired

3134
02:28:00,519 --> 02:27:58,399
one out of three young adults and one

3135
02:28:03,070 --> 02:28:00,529
out of two recent college graduates are

3136
02:28:04,479 --> 02:28:03,080
underemployed hello I'm Keith Abel a

3137
02:28:06,610 --> 02:28:04,489
pharmacist and a home business

3138
02:28:08,260 --> 02:28:06,620
entrepreneur in 2011 I became one of

3139
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those statistics myself instead of

3140
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looking for another job in corporate

3141
02:28:13,780 --> 02:28:11,660
America I joined dr. Joel Wallach the

3142
02:28:15,550 --> 02:28:13,790
dead doctors don't lag I we're creating

3143
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steady incomes for ourselves and would

3144
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like to show you how to do the same if

3145
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you want to supplement your current

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income replace your income so you don't

3147
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have to become one of the statistics

3148
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then give me a call toll free at eight

3149
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3150
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five eight six six two five seven three

3151
02:28:34,000 --> 02:28:32,300
one zero five your fire don't wait till

3152
02:28:36,219 --> 02:28:34,010
you hear those words start creating an

3153
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extra income today eight six six two

3154
02:28:45,780 --> 02:28:41,540
five seven three one zero five high they

3155
02:28:48,550 --> 02:28:45,790
make pipe urethane to the Parrikar

3156
02:28:51,429 --> 02:28:48,560
someday we'll have the dueling para cast

3157
02:28:55,570 --> 02:28:51,439
group and we'll have five minutes of

3158
02:28:57,519 --> 02:28:55,580
power casts you're the power cast or

3159
02:29:00,130 --> 02:28:57,529
whatever Thomas Fusco for the final

3160
02:29:02,410 --> 02:29:00,140
segment and by the way listeners we are

3161
02:29:04,090 --> 02:29:02,420
getting in touch with David Roundtree to

3162
02:29:05,830 --> 02:29:04,100
join us again the future because I think

3163
02:29:08,889 --> 02:29:05,840
there's a lot of stuff going on here and

3164
02:29:10,660 --> 02:29:08,899
he has an additional perspective we need

3165
02:29:13,389 --> 02:29:10,670
or maybe we'll get Thomas on with them

3166
02:29:15,880 --> 02:29:13,399
at the same time or do all our both I

3167
02:29:18,099 --> 02:29:15,890
don't know let's continue Chris some

3168
02:29:21,250 --> 02:29:18,109
more questions I have other things like

3169
02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:21,260
mention about this particular yeah yeah

3170
02:29:25,809 --> 02:29:23,600
let's go on I I love where we're going

3171
02:29:28,660 --> 02:29:25,819
with this Jean Thomas why don't you go

3172
02:29:31,870 --> 02:29:28,670
ahead and just continue talking about

3173
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:31,880
practical applications of this this

3174
02:29:37,690 --> 02:29:34,370
model and the technology that would be

3175
02:29:38,979 --> 02:29:37,700
needed and the protocols especially you

3176
02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:38,989
know because we could really be

3177
02:29:44,010 --> 02:29:40,850
jump-starting a whole new approach in

3178
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:44,020
paranormal investigation of researcher

3179
02:29:49,960 --> 02:29:47,210
absolutely we the all the raw materials

3180
02:29:52,510 --> 02:29:49,970
all the foundation is now they're both

3181
02:29:54,969 --> 02:29:52,520
the theoretical and the experimental the

3182
02:29:58,479 --> 02:29:54,979
technical aspects are now here we never

3183
02:30:00,370 --> 02:29:58,489
had this before in this field what what

3184
02:30:02,801 --> 02:30:00,380
talk about other predictions

3185
02:30:04,211 --> 02:30:02,811
if we have an area of space-time inside

3186
02:30:06,820 --> 02:30:04,221
of room let's say a sphere that's

3187
02:30:09,640 --> 02:30:06,830
expanding one of the things that that

3188
02:30:12,520 --> 02:30:09,650
would create would be a temporary vacuum

3189
02:30:15,461 --> 02:30:12,530
inside of that bubble because it's

3190
02:30:19,511 --> 02:30:15,471
pushing outward now molecules will be

3191
02:30:22,541 --> 02:30:19,521
able to run over that bed and fill in

3192
02:30:24,490 --> 02:30:22,551
the vacuum inside of that bubble by the

3193
02:30:26,980 --> 02:30:24,500
laws of equilibrium but if that

3194
02:30:29,140 --> 02:30:26,990
expansion happens quick enough we're

3195
02:30:32,171 --> 02:30:29,150
going to see a few different phenomena

3196
02:30:34,620 --> 02:30:32,181
that are observed in the paranormal one

3197
02:30:37,890 --> 02:30:34,630
of them is a drop in barometric pressure

3198
02:30:41,110 --> 02:30:37,900
this has been reported by investigators

3199
02:30:43,631 --> 02:30:41,120
another thing that we would see because

3200
02:30:49,150 --> 02:30:43,641
there's a lack of physical content in

3201
02:30:51,850 --> 02:30:49,160
the middle and that energy is contained

3202
02:30:54,430 --> 02:30:51,860
within molecules and atoms not in a

3203
02:30:59,080 --> 02:30:54,440
vacuum what we're going to see emerge is

3204
02:31:01,961 --> 02:30:59,090
a cold spot amazing that only exists

3205
02:31:04,291 --> 02:31:01,971
temporarily another thing that we would

3206
02:31:06,850 --> 02:31:04,301
see is the movement of air molecules

3207
02:31:09,791 --> 02:31:06,860
from an area of higher pressure outside

3208
02:31:12,820 --> 02:31:09,801
to a Larry area of lower pressure inside

3209
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:12,830
so if that bubble expands fast enough we

3210
02:31:17,591 --> 02:31:14,570
would feel a mystery breeze where

3211
02:31:19,801 --> 02:31:17,601
there's no doors or windows open another

3212
02:31:22,480 --> 02:31:19,811
thing that we would see with the

3213
02:31:25,450 --> 02:31:22,490
agitation with the excitement of those

3214
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:25,460
electrons on the outside of that

3215
02:31:29,711 --> 02:31:28,250
expanding bubble of based on the

3216
02:31:33,490 --> 02:31:29,721
electrons are going to jump into their

3217
02:31:35,770 --> 02:31:33,500
higher orbit over the nucleus when they

3218
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:35,780
drop back down they get emit two

3219
02:31:41,410 --> 02:31:38,000
different things all electromagnetic

3220
02:31:44,740 --> 02:31:41,420
fields emit heat so this is why we can

3221
02:31:48,060 --> 02:31:44,750
see a heat signature some time and also

3222
02:31:50,381 --> 02:31:48,070
detect a cold spot which no other

3223
02:31:52,080 --> 02:31:50,391
definitions their models explain how

3224
02:31:55,600 --> 02:31:52,090
these two things can coexist

3225
02:31:59,200 --> 02:31:55,610
side-by-side another thing that would be

3226
02:32:03,700 --> 02:31:59,210
that electrons releasing their energy

3227
02:32:06,730 --> 02:32:03,710
like that can release this photons so

3228
02:32:09,610 --> 02:32:06,740
under certain circumstances we could

3229
02:32:12,341 --> 02:32:09,620
have a bubble of space-time jacketed in

3230
02:32:14,050 --> 02:32:12,351
an electronic electromagnetic field and

3231
02:32:16,719 --> 02:32:14,060
emitting photon

3232
02:32:20,019 --> 02:32:16,729
this is a model of what they call a

3233
02:32:22,780 --> 02:32:20,029
luminous orb exactly what it looks like

3234
02:32:25,750 --> 02:32:22,790
and behaves like and as far as that

3235
02:32:28,269 --> 02:32:25,760
phenomena about photon release we use

3236
02:32:30,130 --> 02:32:28,279
that in our modern world every day we

3237
02:32:33,939 --> 02:32:30,140
passed an electromagnetic field through

3238
02:32:36,429 --> 02:32:33,949
a material the material gets excited its

3239
02:32:38,859 --> 02:32:36,439
electrons they jump up into higher orbit

3240
02:32:41,620 --> 02:32:38,869
in the atoms when they fall back down

3241
02:32:45,750 --> 02:32:41,630
they release photons of light that's how

3242
02:32:48,849 --> 02:32:45,760
a light-emitting diode works so

3243
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:48,859
essentially one of the things I say in a

3244
02:32:54,910 --> 02:32:53,090
broad ascent is that if you took a

3245
02:32:58,389 --> 02:32:54,920
physicist that was well versed in

3246
02:33:01,179 --> 02:32:58,399
relativity and possibly with Colusa

3247
02:33:03,519 --> 02:33:01,189
Kline theory as a second and you asked

3248
02:33:06,729 --> 02:33:03,529
him what would be the effect of the

3249
02:33:10,420 --> 02:33:06,739
artificial expansion of a spacetime

3250
02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:10,430
bubble inside of a house what effects

3251
02:33:15,010 --> 02:33:12,290
would that cause and you would have to

3252
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:15,020
stifle yourself while you watch this

3253
02:33:20,399 --> 02:33:18,290
physicist describe all the kinds of

3254
02:33:23,469 --> 02:33:20,409
effects that we see in haunted houses

3255
02:33:26,859 --> 02:33:23,479
without even knowing he was describing

3256
02:33:30,689 --> 02:33:26,869
the haunting that would be fascinating

3257
02:33:33,460 --> 02:33:30,699
if we can actually yeah good point

3258
02:33:36,010 --> 02:33:33,470
well III think this is really exciting

3259
02:33:41,550 --> 02:33:36,020
because anything that's going to take us

3260
02:33:45,540 --> 02:33:41,560
beyond the realm of these ridiculous

3261
02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:45,550
reality shows between teams of people

3262
02:33:51,689 --> 02:33:48,290
asking each other did you hear that in

3263
02:33:54,069 --> 02:33:51,699
hushed tones is really gonna make my day

3264
02:33:55,870 --> 02:33:54,079
and I'm sure there's a lot of people out

3265
02:33:58,689 --> 02:33:55,880
there that really want to take this this

3266
02:34:01,510 --> 02:33:58,699
whole investigative realm into a new

3267
02:34:05,050 --> 02:34:01,520
place to the next level and what you're

3268
02:34:08,170 --> 02:34:05,060
describing is is a really good place to

3269
02:34:10,149 --> 02:34:08,180
start from and rida Parcher point if you

3270
02:34:12,939 --> 02:34:10,159
will and it sounds like David has come

3271
02:34:15,849 --> 02:34:12,949
up with some gear that might enable a

3272
02:34:18,210 --> 02:34:15,859
team being brought up to speed and

3273
02:34:22,990 --> 02:34:18,220
actually utilizing the technology and

3274
02:34:25,929 --> 02:34:23,000
create repeatable results absolutely now

3275
02:34:27,881 --> 02:34:25,939
we do have something that has finally

3276
02:34:30,011 --> 02:34:27,891
been discovered earlier this year

3277
02:34:33,400 --> 02:34:30,021
that I consider to be the Holy Grail

3278
02:34:37,031 --> 02:34:33,410
that we've been looking for and this is

3279
02:34:39,730 --> 02:34:37,041
the idea that David has been observing

3280
02:34:42,791 --> 02:34:39,740
these high levels of iron his ionization

3281
02:34:44,531 --> 02:34:42,801
and he came to the conclusion that the

3282
02:34:48,131 --> 02:34:44,541
only thing that could be causing that

3283
02:34:50,680 --> 02:34:48,141
would be gamma radiation so he came up

3284
02:34:53,801 --> 02:34:50,690
with an array of equipment that would

3285
02:34:57,751 --> 02:34:53,811
test for gamma and sure enough he's been

3286
02:35:00,821 --> 02:34:57,761
finding it that gamma radiation emerges

3287
02:35:05,081 --> 02:35:00,831
in these areas that have paranormal

3288
02:35:08,591 --> 02:35:05,091
effects the problem is and this is where

3289
02:35:11,560 --> 02:35:08,601
it's wonderful is that there is nothing

3290
02:35:14,411 --> 02:35:11,570
in a hotel room or nothing in an

3291
02:35:18,970 --> 02:35:14,421
abandoned house right that's gonna be

3292
02:35:23,230 --> 02:35:18,980
producing gamma rays exactly exactly

3293
02:35:27,041 --> 02:35:23,240
now here's where it gets crazier is that

3294
02:35:31,060 --> 02:35:27,051
if you remember basic knowledge about

3295
02:35:32,801 --> 02:35:31,070
the Big Bang that one of the things that

3296
02:35:37,211 --> 02:35:32,811
was created at the beginning of the

3297
02:35:41,081 --> 02:35:37,221
universe was exotic particles as well as

3298
02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:41,091
normal particles basically antimatter

3299
02:35:47,591 --> 02:35:45,410
and matter regular matter one but when

3300
02:35:50,081 --> 02:35:47,601
any matter collides with matter and

3301
02:35:55,121 --> 02:35:50,091
destroys itself it produces gamma

3302
02:35:57,041 --> 02:35:55,131
radiation so this idea that paranormal

3303
02:35:59,350 --> 02:35:57,051
phenomena is working on the same

3304
02:36:01,841 --> 02:35:59,360
mechanics as the same process that

3305
02:36:07,091 --> 02:36:01,851
brought the whole universe into being is

3306
02:36:10,211 --> 02:36:07,101
not only very you know strengthened by

3307
02:36:11,861 --> 02:36:10,221
this finding of gamma radiation but it

3308
02:36:13,650 --> 02:36:11,871
could be the holy grail that we are

3309
02:36:16,031 --> 02:36:13,660
looking for to absolutely prove

3310
02:36:20,680 --> 02:36:16,041
paranormal phenomena because mainstream

3311
02:36:23,261 --> 02:36:20,690
physics has no explanation as to how

3312
02:36:27,281 --> 02:36:23,271
gamma can be emerging out of the middle

3313
02:36:33,551 --> 02:36:27,291
of the hotel room now pretend of course

3314
02:36:35,980 --> 02:36:33,561
it doesn't happen well that's what the

3315
02:36:37,961 --> 02:36:35,990
scientific the papers are and the

3316
02:36:42,001 --> 02:36:37,971
experimentation and the record-keeping

3317
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:42,011
and replication is what it's all about

3318
02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:45,130
what I argue is this guy you know

3319
02:36:50,081 --> 02:36:47,530
traditionally in the paranormal

3320
02:36:52,511 --> 02:36:50,091
researchers serious investigators would

3321
02:36:55,030 --> 02:36:52,521
try to call to the scientific community

3322
02:36:58,270 --> 02:36:55,040
and say please come play in our yard

3323
02:37:01,450 --> 02:36:58,280
complain our arena I think we're at the

3324
02:37:04,921 --> 02:37:01,460
point now where what I say the key to

3325
02:37:09,791 --> 02:37:04,931
this is is to go to the scientific arena

3326
02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:09,801
go into their ring their boxing ring on

3327
02:37:15,310 --> 02:37:12,410
their home turf with their home

3328
02:37:19,690 --> 02:37:15,320
advantage and their rules and give them

3329
02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:19,700
a bloody nose and that's where we're at

3330
02:37:24,100 --> 02:37:21,530
right now we're right at the cusp of

3331
02:37:26,410 --> 02:37:24,110
being able to do that you know what

3332
02:37:28,751 --> 02:37:26,420
we're just out of time right now Thomas

3333
02:37:30,761 --> 02:37:28,761
Fusco tell our listeners where they can

3334
02:37:33,390 --> 02:37:30,771
find more of what you do and get a copy

3335
02:37:37,060 --> 02:37:33,400
of your book everything about the book

3336
02:37:39,100 --> 02:37:37,070
what the book is about and related

3337
02:37:43,350 --> 02:37:39,110
articles where I'll be appearing next

3338
02:37:49,570 --> 02:37:43,360
all those things can be found at

3339
02:37:52,961 --> 02:37:49,580
www.viki al de IL cosmic veil calm and

3340
02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:52,971
the book again is called behind the

3341
02:37:57,940 --> 02:37:56,330
cosmic veil a new vision of reality we

3342
02:38:00,850 --> 02:37:57,950
want you to order a copy direct from

3343
02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:00,860
Thomas Chris O'Brien is putting the

3344
02:38:05,110 --> 02:38:02,290
finishing touches

3345
02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:05,120
finally on stalking the herd this has

3346
02:38:09,131 --> 02:38:07,040
become a much bigger project than he

3347
02:38:11,440 --> 02:38:09,141
probably expected this is gonna be a

3348
02:38:14,081 --> 02:38:11,450
great book you can find out more of what

3349
02:38:17,381 --> 02:38:14,091
he does at our strange planet calm our

3350
02:38:19,450 --> 02:38:17,391
strange plant calm and by the way we've

3351
02:38:22,360 --> 02:38:19,460
set up a new website that's going to be

3352
02:38:27,160 --> 02:38:22,370
developed soon called stalking the herd

3353
02:38:28,929 --> 02:38:27,170
dot-com how about that alright and you

3354
02:38:30,910 --> 02:38:28,939
find more of what we do that

3355
02:38:35,139 --> 02:38:30,920
our cast go to Twitter we're known as

3356
02:38:38,019 --> 02:38:35,149
the para cast there's also a power cast

3357
02:38:39,429 --> 02:38:38,029
fanclub even two of them on Facebook and

3358
02:38:40,210 --> 02:38:39,439
someday we'll figure out how to make

3359
02:38:43,059 --> 02:38:40,220
them one

3360
02:38:47,460 --> 02:38:43,069
Thomas Fusco thanks for joining us on

3361
02:38:54,451 --> 02:38:47,470
the power cast thanks for having me guys

3362
02:39:00,390 --> 02:38:57,511
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3363
02:39:03,411 --> 02:39:00,400
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3364
02:39:07,140 --> 02:39:03,421
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